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4th law of robotics

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Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:58 PM Sep 2012

Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top [View all]

The fact that the average American working woman earns only about 8o% of what the average American working man earns has been something of a festering sore for at least half the population for several decades. And despite many programs and analyses and hand-wringing and badges and even some legislation, the figure hasn't budged much in the past five years.

But now there's evidence that the ship may finally be turning around: according to a new analysis of 2,000 communities by a market research company, in 147 out of 150 of the biggest cities in the U.S., the median full-time salaries of young women are 8% higher than those of the guys in their peer group. In two cities, Atlanta and Memphis, those women are making about 20% more. This squares with earlier research from Queens College, New York, that had suggested that this was happening in major metropolises. But the new study suggests that the gap is bigger than previously thought, with young women in New York City, Los Angeles and San Diego making 17%, 12% and 15% more than their male peers, respectively. And it also holds true even in reasonably small areas like the Raleigh-Durham region and Charlotte in North Carolina (both 14% more), and Jacksonville, Fla. (6%).

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html?xid=fblike


I found this bit particularly interesting:

He attributes the earnings reversal overwhelmingly to one factor: education. For every two guys who graduate from college or get a higher degree, three women do.


So in other words back when men were the predominate gender among college grads men earned more. Now that women are the predominate gender among college grads women are earning more. This of course suggests that education, not gender, is the determining factor in wage disparities.
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I don't get it-- digonswine Sep 2012 #1
Once all relevant variables are accounted for men and women make the same 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #2
How do you know this is true? digonswine Sep 2012 #3
Extensive research on the subject 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #4
That's not quite good enough-but digonswine Sep 2012 #5
Sorry, I've just been over that topic so many times 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #6
That's fine- digonswine Sep 2012 #7
The American Association of University Women says 5-7% lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #10
When you account for benefits, the wage gap pretty much disappears entirely Major Nikon Sep 2012 #18
Yes and no. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #9
If the gender gap was as simple as rad-fems pretend it is... Major Nikon Sep 2012 #20
They essentially have. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Sep 2012 #8
Actually that just reinforces what I've said 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Sep 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Sep 2012 #12
It concerns me because we've dedicated huge amounts of resources 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Sep 2012 #14
The problem in this case seems to be educational attaimement 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Sep 2012 #16
Let's deconstruct this a bit. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Sep 2012 #52
From a causality standpoint, I don't think the boys are the relevant audience. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #55
So men fail to succeed because they're lazy? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Sep 2012 #51
I was never told I would have it easy without going to college 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #57
Ah but if you believe in the patriarchy conspiracy theory, the problem does exist Major Nikon Sep 2012 #19
women were chattel until quite recently. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #23
Believing in the patriarchy isn't a mainstream leftist view 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #29
It is not a belief it is an historic fact. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #32
You're being disingenuous 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #33
"Women are paid the same for the same job." Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #41
No, in reality 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #42
So why don't employers heavily favor women, if they can pay them less for the same work? Major Nikon Sep 2012 #45
I fully supported both the Fair Pay Act and the Equal Pay Act Major Nikon Sep 2012 #46
Calling something you don't agree with "right wing" is intellectual laziness Major Nikon Sep 2012 #44
"the patriarchal system which existed 100 years ago allowed men more freedom than women" Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #48
No on has said that men being given more advantages 100 years ago was a rad-fem conspiracy theory 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #49
Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups Major Nikon Sep 2012 #50
Wtf? It was just pointed out upthread that "the problem" most certainly does exist. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #21
As a man, you are ineligible for most gender based scholarships lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #25
Another factor is total compensation vs wages Major Nikon Sep 2012 #54
No, no it doesn't 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #27
Wait, what? Do you think it exists, or not? MadrasT Sep 2012 #22
I thought it was obvious 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #28
If "we" are providing women with gender based academic assistance, it should stop. MadrasT Sep 2012 #30
If? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #31
I said "if" because I don't really know what is out there, assistance-wise, for girls vs. boys. MadrasT Sep 2012 #35
Thank you. 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #36
slight derail... pardon the interruption... MadrasT, opiate69 Sep 2012 #37
The myth of the gender wage gap: great company y'all keep. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #38
The wage gap myth is pushed by some unsavory people as well 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #39
you keep conflating issues and dragging in 'rad-fems', porn, rape whatever. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #40
Weak counter argument 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #43
Being wrong isn't a litmus test for being a liberal. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #47
How about his one... Major Nikon Sep 2012 #53
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #56
We had better educational parity in 1920 craichead65 Oct 2012 #58
Citation craichead65 Oct 2012 #60
Fascinating paper. Thanks! n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #61
Interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #62
Actual wage gap is 5-8% craichead65 Oct 2012 #59
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