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Warren DeMontague

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39. It is extremely telling...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

the invisi-think tank works overtime for a day or two, scrambling on this, and this is the BEST they can come up with:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125520748

Okay, first off- this is the Lebanon times (That is Lebanon, the Country, not Lebanon, Ohio) sourcing the Daily Mail.... or claiming to?

Really?

But apparently, somewhere, at some time, in some unknown country, there may have been a judge who may have said a 15 yr. old's rapist did what he did because of porn.

Proving... something.

Now, as for the so-called "science". For starts, there's this line from the "one angry girl" blog:

know this isn't true, because despite the phenomenal growth of all kinds of porn during the last few decades, reported rapes have increased 500% since 1960


REALLY. 500%? Wow, that's astounding. Amazing. Must mean something HUGE. One can only assume that they are cherry-picking data from places like the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting tool:

http://www.ucrdatatool.gov

Now, of course, the US Population in general has essentially doubled since 1960, so there's been a 200% increase in just how many people there are, period. But that UCR data tool tells us some other interesting things, for one, that the rape rate peaked in 1992 and has declined since, by approx. 20% since then. Which must mean, if Porn--->Rape, that there's, what, 20% less porn in society than there was in 1992?

Except, 1992 was prior to the culutral smutty internetificaiton of internetificated culture smuttiness... Hmmmm.. Odd.

And that 'reported rape' number gets tossed out the window when it doesn't fit the narrative, invoking conspiracies by the Feds to drive the numbers down (presumably, to protect Larry Flynt and cover up the fact that porno is generating phalanxes of rapists) ... still, it doesn't work both ways- if the increase since 1960 has something to do with "porn" (which didn't really hit the cultural zeitgeist until the early 70s, but who's counting) then the DECLINE since 1992 must also have something to do with the easy availability of porn, which went through the roof after the internet came into being.

My answer is, neither is related- porn, again, has zip diddly squat to do with rape.

The "science" studies quoted are spurious, at best- and typical examples of the sort of shoddy "research" which passes for anti-porn science.

Essentially studies like "we interviewed 40 nose-pickers. 80% of those nose pickers had admitted to wearing hats in the past month. Obviously, hat-wearing has an influence on nose-picking behavior"
Kinda flabbergasted that your post in the other thread got deleted... opiate69 Apr 2012 #1
Yeah, I'd like one of the four jurors who voted to hide to explain SPECIFICALLY Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #2
I've actually thought of posting in one of the women's groups once or twice in the past.. Upton Apr 2012 #3
I do post there, sometimes, since I'm genuinely interested in equality for everyone. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #4
Same here. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #6
I'll go one step further that it's easier to have an open and honest discussion about.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #9
From what I've seen, most self identified female feminists are pro choice & sex positive too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #10
That's because the 2nd wave radical feminists are becoming more and more rare Major Nikon May 2012 #22
I'm not surprised ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #5
On a short leash? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #7
Hey, I'm a confident man ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #8
Kinky! Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #13
There has been some interesting analysis done on the hypothetical evolutionary pressures Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #11
This point above is worth reiterating. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #25
*** Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #12
"Porn is the nazi's way of keeping two people from love". DutchLiberal May 2012 #14
I guess That, ah, entity missed the radfem polemic on 1984, specifically that it was Orwell writing Warren DeMontague May 2012 #15
Tsk, tsk... saying "radfem" is the same as saying "radical anti-racism". DutchLiberal May 2012 #16
Jesus. It's a label that is self applied. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #17
And apostrophes are the patriarchy's way of phallopressing our sentence structures. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #18
well of course they are... opiate69 May 2012 #19
Can be. Porn is a pretty broad category. caseymoz May 2012 #20
If nothing else, it should at least cause some to question the validity of radical feminist 'theory' Major Nikon May 2012 #21
Ah but science is predominately a male field 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #24
Kick Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #23
It is to my marriage. RiffRandell Apr 2013 #26
Same here, Riff. pacalo Apr 2013 #28
That seems to be a common experience. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #29
I strongly suspected that was the case. pacalo Apr 2013 #31
My husband is in telecom...he's a dongle dude. RiffRandell Apr 2013 #32
"His research told him "there is an inverse causal relationship between an increase in pornography Bonobo Apr 2013 #27
Some interesting thoughts on porn and "rape culture": Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #30
The sexual landscape in America has changed rather dramatically. It's why yoga pants are everywhere. Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #33
It's a good time to be a man... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #34
Even who don't go to college are "benefiting" after a fashion Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #35
Yoga pants... or why I refuse to drive a car on a college campus. Safer to park and walk. Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #37
I eagerly await the jury results on your post. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #38
It is extremely telling... Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #39
Here is a graph on those DOJ UCR Rape Statistics: Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #40
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