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Thu May 17, 2012, 07:08 PM

"Objectification": Science, or Junk Science? [View all]

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To Briefly Summarize, for those who don't want to dig through the whole thread:

  • Statements like "objectification causes disruptions in the flow of consciousness", while interesting conjecture for the new age bookstore, are not the basis for a solid scientific theory, IMHOYMMV.

  • What many people like to call "objectification" really seems to be "sexual attraction based on superficial characteristics, or with a concurrent lack of empathy"

  • Similarly, boiling down "objectification" in the real world seems to amount to nothing so much as "person A is sexually attracted to person B for reasons person C does not approve of"

  • If someone tells you something is a "well understood congitive process", they are likely lying. Cognition is something science most emphatically does NOT fully understand.


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    Re: Recent discussions on the topic (May 2012) --- it appears to me that this is yet another "study" with nebulous yet ultimately meaningless definitions designed to obtain a scary-sounding preordained outcome. "Men see women as objects"... oooh, that sounds bad. Undoubtedly there is some real hard science in there, somewhere, underlying that determination, yet like so many other of these "studies", to see the actual data you have to pay to read it.

    http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/releases/people-see-sexy-pictures-of-women-as-objects-not-people.html

    Funny that these sorts of "How horrible is the commodification and monetization in society" studies all seem to charge a fee to read 'em.

    If the data was so ironclad and unchallengeable, they'd put it in Scientific American, not pissed-off-sociology-grad-student-of-the-month.

    Same shit, different week.

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