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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 01:58 AM

1. If we expand the class sizes of all those great teachers I can flat guarantee they won't be great

in a few years. I have 35 kids per class, and I know I could do better with smaller class sizes. I'm a popular teacher and my classes get filled quickly and my kids learn a lot. But my burn-out is accelerating and I can't go beyond a certain place, because of the sheer amount of policing I have to do in the room.

There is enough obscene wealth in this country congealing in the hoards of the 1% to make every school and excellent school and keep classes smaller.

Education Next, cited in that article, is a far-right think-tank, the education branch of the Hoover Institution. This article is full of contradictions.

"The proposal is intriguing, and some teachers may be on board. Matthew Chingos, a fellow at the Brookings Institution, has cited a national survey by the journal Education Next and Harvardís Program on Education Policy and Governance that found that 42 percent of teachers would gladly accept a $10,000 raise to forgo a three-student reduction in class size. Yet perhaps more striking, 47 percent of teachers said they would turn down this substantial pay increase to have just three students fewer in class. Itís unclear if the teachers who want the extra money are the same ones schools hope to retain and reward. But the bigger problem is that class size is already increasing while there still isnít a mechanism to identify top-flight teachers and offer them more students for more pay; nor is there any assurance that parents, given a choice, would embrace these larger classes for their children."

Wealthy parents put their kids into schools with incredibly small class sizes. This debate is bogus.

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