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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
35. A few thoughts:
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:14 PM
Sep 2014

As a former IB teacher, I can attest to this: the IB PYP is intended to be taught to all students. The MYP? Still pretty accessible, but getting harder. The Diploma program? Not so much. It requires a very high level of thinking skills, but also strong work/study habits and the ability to follow through and "stick" with it that not all students bring to the table.

The bottom line is that all students, SPED and other, aren't going to succeed with IB courses.

Children are different. They learn differently, they have different capabilities. WE DON'T NEED ONE-SIZE FITS ALL mandates.

There's some truth to this statement:

“We know that when students with disabilities are held to high expectations and have access to a robust curriculum, they excel.”

Sort of.

We know that holding ALL students to high expectations gets them further than holding them to low expectations. THE POINT, THOUGH, IS THE HIGH STAKES.

When we hold high expectations and work hard together to reach them, where ever we end up, we're successful. The higher the expectations, the less likely that everyone will get there. That's okay, if the journey, the process, is the point. It's not if everyone who doesn't get all the way there, and their teachers, have "failed."

That's the contradiction: if we want the best results, we set the bar high, work hard, and then celebrate. If we set high stakes on that bar, either every teacher fails because 100% of people of any age are not going to achieve at the top levels, or we set the bar lower so that more can reach it, thus reinforcing the "low expectation" nonsense. Then we're failures because we set it to low.

Under Duncan's system, we fail NO MATTER WHAT.

Which was the corporate point, right?

It's not the CCSS themselves I take issue with. It's the destructive political use, the manipulation, abuse of those, and any other standards.



..... madfloridian Aug 2014 #1
Arne Duncan is in favor of allowing private for profit companies to cherry pick all Vincardog Aug 2014 #2
The man has no business being the secretary of education Salviati Aug 2014 #3
You don't believe people with Emotional disorders missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #4
Of course and how does that justify ending classes for those who cannot? jwirr Aug 2014 #6
Maybe because my autistic child is NOT capable of a standard curriculum to begin with? Demeter Aug 2014 #7
My daughter isn't either missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #15
but you prove the point. such diverse children will not learn the sam ethings at the same time. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #16
I posted this in the Education group as to not have to put up with this stuff. madfloridian Aug 2014 #9
Didn't mean to step on any toes. missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #18
Of all people who should celebrate the differences in the way students learn... madfloridian Aug 2014 #19
I am not in any way defending Mr. Duncan. missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #20
Now that is just baloney. Read any of our posts here...we care very very much. madfloridian Aug 2014 #22
The post I originally responded to missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #24
aren't special ed students mainstreamed as much as possible? questionseverything Aug 2014 #26
just as with general education the issue with special education is not those students who can liberal_at_heart Aug 2014 #28
"whether they can look past the disabilities and see the abilities." madfloridian Aug 2014 #29
You are fortunate, indeed, missingthebigdog Aug 2014 #30
Please stop using "closing ranks". madfloridian Aug 2014 #31
Closing ranks, self-defense, what the hell ever, I'm with you madfloridian. liberal_at_heart Aug 2014 #32
I'm sorry you have not had the fortune to have that one special teacher that goes that extra mile liberal_at_heart Aug 2014 #33
Some, absolutely Salviati Aug 2014 #11
Wonder if ole Arne has ever met a student like my daughter? She attended special education until jwirr Aug 2014 #5
that's what it is going to take. We are going to have to sue to protect our children liberal_at_heart Aug 2014 #21
Yes, and it will take a lot of us lobbying. We do not have a professional lobby which means that it jwirr Aug 2014 #25
Arne Duncan doesn't even have a degree in Education - TBF Aug 2014 #8
Arne: "I want everyone to be above average." Ka hrnt Aug 2014 #10
He wants schools to be cheaper. madfloridian Aug 2014 #12
i think he knows exactly what he is doing questionseverything Aug 2014 #27
he is doing what his boss tells him to do. you know who his boss is, right? nt msongs Aug 2014 #13
I agree. madfloridian Aug 2014 #14
He is doing Obamas will. I'll fucking say it. It's true. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #17
Yes, he is. madfloridian Aug 2014 #23
Kick because all kids are not the same. madfloridian Sep 2014 #34
A few thoughts: LWolf Sep 2014 #35
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