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kristopher

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23. They *are* working to implement it.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 02:47 AM
Jul 2016

You don't seem to have even bothered to find out what they are striving for.

Why our food and farming system is broken

Food is life. Food is happiness. Food is love. Our relationship with it is universal, primal, historic, rich in tradition and pride. But right now, most of us do not know where our food comes from. A greedy elite are industrialising, commodifying and controlling every aspect of our food system -- from genome to grocery store. They are growing our food on huge monoculture farms, spraying genetically modified crops with obscene amounts of chemicals and feeding these crops to factory-farmed animals.

The result is a broken system: soils drained of nutrients, poisoned waterways and the destruction of a precious diversity of crop varieties that have enabled human societies to thrive from the mountains to the coast for millennia. At the other end of the food chain, urban consumers – especially the poor – have little choice but to buy pre-packaged food built devoid of nutrition.

Did you know:

6 Big Ag giants control nearly 70 percent of the world's seed market, much of which has been genetically-modified so they can reap profits on every seed they sell

4 global corporations control 75% of all global grain trade

Top 10 global food processing companies control 26% of the global food markets

Animal livestock (beef, chicken, etc.) -- mostly grown on industrial factory farms -- is responsible for 14 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions, more than the combined exhaust of all motor vehicles worldwide?
It’s time to transform our broken food system

But a growing food movement is starting to brew around the world. More people are demanding to know where their food is coming from. Farmers and communities are reclaiming control over the seeds of life, and their right to self-determination through the food they grow and eat. A number of far-sighted corporations are looking to meet the evolving demands of the consumers they serve with a food system that matches this growing shift in consciousness.

Greenpeace’s food campaign is here to support the global food movement based on "ecological farming" -- where most of our food is grown ecologically, and farmers together with consumers reject toxic pesticides, chemical fertilizers and GMO seeds. It’s a future where people from all walks of life work together to build a system that is best for their families, farmers, and for the planet.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/agriculture/problem/
GP isn't real big on science bluestateguy Jun 2016 #1
Believe me, I know. The entire organization consists of people who couldn't pass high school... NNadir Jun 2016 #2
Exacty. They couldn't, but Greenpeace woudl pass easily scscholar Jul 2016 #79
Bullshit. kristopher Jul 2016 #6
No, it doesn't. It has lost all credibility with anyone who cares about ethics and science. HuckleB Jul 2016 #8
That's certainly the right wing meme that corporate bad actors love to spread. kristopher Jul 2016 #9
There is nothing right wing about accurate information. HuckleB Jul 2016 #18
What is your specific criticism? kristopher Jul 2016 #22
FFS, the problems with Greenpeace's history of BS aimed at GMOs is spelled out in the OP. HuckleB Jul 2016 #28
And you have no understanding of the topic of science and ethics. kristopher Jul 2016 #29
That is the funniest thing you could possibly post. HuckleB Jul 2016 #30
You haven't posted anything that impeaches Greenpeace. kristopher Jul 2016 #35
I have, and your denial of that reality is really sad. HuckleB Jul 2016 #36
Really, we understand your position. kristopher Jul 2016 #39
"We." And you just made up "my position." HuckleB Jul 2016 #40
You in post #8 kristopher Jul 2016 #44
And you repeat yourself. HuckleB Jul 2016 #55
You claim Greenpeace is motivated to lies and distortion due to the fact they are a nonprofit. kristopher Jul 2016 #59
And again you put words into my mouth. HuckleB Jul 2016 #61
You said it explicitly. kristopher Jul 2016 #65
I did not say what you said in your rewording. HuckleB Jul 2016 #66
lol SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #14
Accurate information is hilarious, apparently. HuckleB Jul 2016 #19
you make it clear where you put your faith SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #48
Evidence and the scientific process that gives us the best evidence. HuckleB Jul 2016 #56
lol SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #58
Cute. HuckleB Jul 2016 #60
Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #62
Yes, it is. HuckleB Jul 2016 #63
lol SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #64
It is, but not for the fictions you imagine. HuckleB Jul 2016 #67
Science Fiction SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #68
I know you do. HuckleB Jul 2016 #69
lol SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #70
. HuckleB Jul 2016 #71
. SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #73
But it has Green and Peace in the name. progressoid Jul 2016 #16
That's all that is necessary! HuckleB Jul 2016 #72
Of course the articles you source from note that Greenpeace does do good work Scootaloo Jul 2016 #84
The harm Greenpeace has done is immense and it does not give a rip about repair. HuckleB Jul 2016 #91
If GP is pro-science... LouisvilleDem Jul 2016 #93
lol -fubar SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #13
"None of us is as dumb as all of us" AZ Progressive Jul 2016 #3
WaPo has it too. progressoid Jul 2016 #4
Thanks. It think this was the original report. The number of Laureate signatories is now 110... NNadir Jul 2016 #10
Greenpeace Response to GMO Scientists' Statement kristopher Jul 2016 #5
Greenpeace's response is more pseudoscience nonsense, nothing more. HuckleB Jul 2016 #7
The nuclear industry loves to try blaming Greenpeace for their failures also. kristopher Jul 2016 #11
This has nothing to do with the nuclear industry. HuckleB Jul 2016 #20
Sure it does. kristopher Jul 2016 #24
You really don't have a leg to stand on here. HuckleB Jul 2016 #27
You completely lack understanding of the issue of ethics and science. kristopher Jul 2016 #31
I'm not misrepresenting anything. You are defending the indefensible. HuckleB Jul 2016 #32
Got it. You believe corporations are motivated by profit and power seeking to act ethically... kristopher Jul 2016 #37
And now you put words in my mouth. HuckleB Jul 2016 #38
Deliberately misrepresenting the position of your opponents... kristopher Jul 2016 #41
I'm glad you acknowledge that, finally. HuckleB Jul 2016 #42
How clever of you to ... kristopher Jul 2016 #45
Oh, so you weren't coming around. HuckleB Jul 2016 #57
If corporate abuse is the problem, then address that issue. progressoid Jul 2016 #15
Their position is clearly set out kristopher Jul 2016 #17
Not really. progressoid Jul 2016 #21
They *are* working to implement it. kristopher Jul 2016 #23
Sure. Just as long as GMOs aren't included. progressoid Jul 2016 #26
So you don't believe that the legal structures corps work to have implemented are meaningful? kristopher Jul 2016 #33
Sure, but those legal structures will exist even without GMOs. progressoid Jul 2016 #43
GMOs are only one manifestation of the problem. kristopher Jul 2016 #46
But it's the one manifestation that everyone (including GP) freaks out about. progressoid Jul 2016 #49
No it isn't. kristopher Jul 2016 #50
Cherry picking? progressoid Jul 2016 #88
But that would make sense! HuckleB Jul 2016 #98
Coincidentally, I talked to a farmer yesterday about this very subject. progressoid Jul 2016 #99
GP is hunting down the last whale at this very moment SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #12
I, and 110 Nobel Prize winners, agree. Greenpeace is ignorant, and in my opinion, evil. NNadir Jul 2016 #25
You are here with a nuclear axe to grind - nothing more. kristopher Jul 2016 #34
vast damage to the planet. SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #47
LOL? I'm sure you're giggling. I'm not. Seven million people die from air pollution each... NNadir Jul 2016 #52
yea SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #53
Don't worry much about the goofiness on this thread. HuckleB Jul 2016 #75
I can't say I'm worried. Actually, I can't see much of the goofiness, as I use the "ignore"... NNadir Jul 2016 #94
I went with ignore, for a while, but realized it tends to let the fictions off the hook. HuckleB Jul 2016 #97
I used to feel the same way. I changed my mind though. If one goes in deep enough with these... NNadir Jul 2016 #101
humans are the PROBLEM. they are doing too well. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #51
Considering that every organism on the planet are genetically modified organisms, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #54
This is a true statement. n/t. NNadir Jul 2016 #74
How did our ancestors manage to get shark DNA into the human genome? n/t eridani Jul 2016 #106
Every organism has evolved, there fore every organism is genetically modified Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #107
There is no evolutionary case in which DNA from unrelated species are mutually inserted, period. eridani Jul 2016 #108
There is noting special about a gene whether it comes from a Shark, human, banana, or a blowfly. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #110
Look - I have a small sympathy with Greenpeace's stance Lithos Jul 2016 #76
What does this mean? HuckleB Jul 2016 #82
Here Lithos Jul 2016 #85
So Monsanto has upheld its patents, and...? HuckleB Jul 2016 #92
I have personally met Monsanto scientists, and toured their mass spec labs in Saint Louis. NNadir Jul 2016 #86
Sorry Lithos Jul 2016 #89
Sorry, but I am talking about direct contact with their scientists. NNadir Jul 2016 #90
And I'm talking about the company Lithos Jul 2016 #96
I am aware of the FAO, it's potato diversity and banana diversity programs and a whole host... NNadir Jul 2016 #100
Thanks - it's a fun 4th of July Lithos Jul 2016 #102
Lithos, you are one of the few voices of reason in this thread. I appreciate Nay Jul 2016 #103
Just to add a new Counterpunch article about golden rice; seems there's Nay Jul 2016 #117
Oh goody. A barely referenced article from a smug cultural imperialist. NNadir Jul 2016 #118
A Monsanto scientist once told me, "Monsanto is evil!" bananas Jul 2016 #104
The anti-science pattern is common in other areas Lithos Jul 2016 #112
This post is entirely filled with specious associations that I will address at some other time. NNadir Jul 2016 #116
Exactly. HuckleB Jul 2016 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #77
Unfortunately, all too true, as some of the responses here demonstrate. HuckleB Jul 2016 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #83
Ha Ha. Evil joke. The OP is about a freaking GMO public relations shit fling. Scientific Jul 2016 #78
I see you continue to choose to hate science in order to believe in fictions. HuckleB Jul 2016 #80
Um...um...um...so your theory is that evil Nobel Laureates are in an occult conspiracy? NNadir Jul 2016 #87
Here's the story on storify, and it's awesome! HuckleB Jul 2016 #95
Wonder if they will sign a letter attacking me for refusing to buy State Farm insurance-- eridani Jul 2016 #105
Obviously these brilliant people think otherwise. One of the more toxic activities on this... NNadir Jul 2016 #109
Golden rice is fine by me because it was developed by a non-profit consortium eridani Jul 2016 #111
And Greenpeace's politics on GMOs are rather uncouth. HuckleB Jul 2016 #115
Greenpeace is fighting to harm the planet. HuckleB Jul 2016 #114
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