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NNadir

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17. We're over 400 ppm of CO2 permanently and we're still focusing on this piddling...
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:18 PM
Aug 2016

...garage scale bullshit?

Firsts?

How about lasts?

The last time we will ever see carbon dioxide readings below 400 ppm is already in the past, and still we have people paying attention - as if it fucking mattered a whit - about a fucking single megawatt thermodynamic nightmare storage device.

Right now, human energy consumption is at more than 570 exajoules per year. This translates into an average continuous power demand of 18 million watts.

This appalling lack of a sense of scale on the part of the wishful thinking that has caused humanity to invest heavily, and uselessly, on unsustainable junk that has not worked, is not working, and will not work.

This crap was failing at Utsira a decade ago, and still, we have people repeating the experiment endlessly hoping that they'll get a different result.

It's pure idiocy, a crime against the future.

This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #1
Actually, since so called "renewable energy" is an expensive failure... NNadir Aug 2016 #3
I'm a strong supporter of alternative and renewable fuels, but hydrogen scares the hell out of me. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #2
Don't worry about it. People have been running this hydrogen scam for generations. NNadir Aug 2016 #4
Do you trust gasoline-powered cars? OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #9
That's why we LWolf Aug 2016 #5
"When produced using renewable energy" progressoid Aug 2016 #6
And it's even worse than that caraher Aug 2016 #7
Or maybe not OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #10
I don't see the immediate relevance to transportation, the subject of the OP caraher Aug 2016 #13
Relevance to the OP OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #14
Or maybe not OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #11
That 86% figure is pretty squirrely caraher Aug 2016 #12
Do other forms of recovered energy not count then? OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #15
Southeast Asia’s First Renewable Hydrogen-Based Energy Storage and Power Plant Awarded to Hydrogeni… OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #16
We're over 400 ppm of CO2 permanently and we're still focusing on this piddling... NNadir Aug 2016 #17
18 trillion watts (18 million megawatts) for a year = 570 exajoules, I think progree Aug 2016 #18
You are correct. In my anger at the stupidity of the post, I left out the "Mega" prefix... NNadir Aug 2016 #19
So in 30 years, hydrogen cars might be as cheap to drive as electric cars are today??? NickB79 Aug 2016 #8
Only if there are no improvements in battery storage technology over that 30 years.. mackdaddy Aug 2016 #20
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