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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. That isn't my "logic" at all; it's your own personal bit of confusion.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 03:28 PM
Nov 2016

I'm constantly amazed at the weird things people string together and label "logic". It's as if the entire world disappears from their mind except for the tiny little itty bitty belief they're trying to preserve.

Yes, those are all issues that negatively impact the acceptance of hydrogen with the public. But the points with policy planners are the huge additional amount of clean generating infrastructure it would require together with need for a massive duplicative new distribution system.
Pre-lithium batteries it held it's own as an option, but the battery chemistries that are now extant and in the pipeline have completely changed the landscape and hydrogen is, at best, a niche technology for the foreseeable future.

Even Toyota is acknowledging reality.

Warming to lithium-ion, Toyota charges up its battery options


...While rivals including Tesla Motors and Nissan Motor Co began adopting lithium-ion battery technology nearly a decade ago, Toyota has largely held back due to concerns over cost, size and safety.

...Having Toyota endorse lithium-ion will be a fillip for the developing technology, and gives the automaker the option to produce for an all-electric passenger car market which it has avoided, preferring to put its heft behind hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles (FCVs).

Toyota says its Prius Prime, a soon-to-be-launched plug-in electric version of the world's top-selling gasoline hybrid, will use lithium-ion batteries, with enough energy to make the car go around 60 kms (37.3 miles) when fully charged before the gasoline engine kicks in. Because of different methodology in measuring a car's electric mode range, the Prime's 60 km range will be listed in the United States as around 25 miles (40.2 kms).

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While Toyota sees FCVs as the ultimate 'green' car, the United States and China are encouraging automakers to make more all-electric battery cars as they push alternative energy strategies. <snort>


more at: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-toyota-batteries-idUSKBN12U0ZH
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