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Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:57 AM

1. Whenever the sun is shining, the thermodynamic consequence of shutting a dangerous fossil...

...fuel plant for a few hours is destructive to both the economics, environmental impact and thermodynamics of a system.

If you need two systems to do what one can do alone, you are being wasteful.

The result is that neither system is economical, but if you engage in the questionable and intellectually dishonest practice of isolating one from the other you can make a specious argument to the contrary.

I know very well the very bad thinking that goes on at the Energy Collective. I used to write there, and some of my stuff still is there albeit without fair attribution.

This is a classic example of poor thinking being put up at that blog.

The solar and wind industries are trivial. In the period between 2000 and 2016 according to the 2017 World Energy Outlook the fastest growing source of energy was coal, which increased by more than 60 exajoules to represent 157 exajoules of the 576 exajoules humanity was consuming in 2016.

The solar and wind industry were producing a little over 9 exajoules, after the expenditure of more than 2 trillion dollars to produce essentially redundant systems.

The environment will be destroyed much faster if we don't stop lying to ourselves.

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