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kristopher

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35. If you think objecting to nuclear automatically make someone a "Luddite"

Reply to Odin2005 (Reply #32)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:39 PM

Apr 2012

...then you either do not know the meaning of the word or you are using it only as a pejorative with no actual consideration.

There are strong, valid reasons for opposing nuclear. You are challenged in post 34 to discuss the matter further.

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Vicious words mark the war between pro and anti-nuclear environmentalists [View all] kristopher Apr 2012 OP

They need to BURY the hatchet izquierdista Apr 2012 #1

And that was Michio Kaku's solution to the ongoing mess in Japan: freshwest Apr 2012 #3

We started to discuss this a while back and I never got back to you kristopher Apr 2012 #8

'the economics are almost certainly prohibitive' izquierdista Apr 2012 #16

OK I understand; are you a denier? kristopher Apr 2012 #18

Put your broad brush away izquierdista Apr 2012 #21

"I am not going to deny what is obvious" - But that is exactly what you are doing kristopher Apr 2012 #22

I puke out the words you stuff in my mouth izquierdista Apr 2012 #23

That's unfortunate kristopher Apr 2012 #24

Actually.... PamW Apr 2012 #28

Beyond our imagination: Fukushima and the problem of assessing risk kristopher Apr 2012 #29

Since you spout propaganda instead of facts, izquierdista Apr 2012 #36

IS FACTUAL!!! PamW Apr 2012 #44

Disappointed at Monbiot, but this sentence in reply said it all for me: freshwest Apr 2012 #2

Greenpeace has NOT come out in favor of nuclear. bananas Apr 2012 #4

Thank you for correcting that, I hadn't seen the disclaimer. I will edit. Any comment on the impact freshwest Apr 2012 #6

Social stratification is a major problem with nuclear energy - on a number of levels bananas Apr 2012 #10

Rec'ing thread b/c of responses like this cprise Apr 2012 #27

Perhaps the explanation is... PamW Apr 2012 #30

Moore is a paid spokesman for the Nuclear Energy Institute kristopher Apr 2012 #31

The nuclear industry hired Hill & Knowlton to do PR bananas Apr 2012 #5

Yes, that was disproved. But the M$M did the bidding of the MIC to generate sympathy. freshwest Apr 2012 #7

None of the major environmental groups support nuclear energy, almost all are against it. bananas Apr 2012 #11

The Union of Concerned Scientists: "Nuclear power today does not meet these criteria." bananas Apr 2012 #12

"The Sierra Club remains unequivocally opposed to nuclear energy." bananas Apr 2012 #13

I'm aware. Helen Caldicott is still getting the word out, too. freshwest Apr 2012 #14

And here come the Luddites. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #32

If you think objecting to nuclear automatically make someone a "Luddite" kristopher Apr 2012 #35

The poster was going off on a rant... Odin2005 Apr 2012 #41

Do you ever consider the cultural implications of technological choices? kristopher Apr 2012 #42

Monbiot isn't the only environmentalist who supports nuclear. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #43

Does the irony escape you? Nederland Apr 2012 #37

Does the difference between electronic manufacturing and highly centralized control of energy... kristopher Apr 2012 #38

Yes, bigger picture. You don't have to give up everything to be independent of systems of control. freshwest Apr 2012 #40

No (nt) Nederland Apr 2012 #45

Micro, macro. freshwest Apr 2012 #39

There's one consideration that makes the whole debate moot... GliderGuider Apr 2012 #9

A few snippets from Helen Caldicott's response to Monbiot: freshwest Apr 2012 #15

You might wish to edit this down XemaSab Apr 2012 #17

Thought that was for OPs. Consider it edited. freshwest Apr 2012 #19

Great XemaSab Apr 2012 #20

Comparison of different views of a specific point - learning curve of nuclear power kristopher Apr 2012 #25

Emails between George Monbiot and Theo Simon on nuclear power kristopher Apr 2012 #26

Monboit is right, as usual. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #33

Would you care to lay out the Arguments Monbiot makes that show he is "right" about needing nuclear? kristopher Apr 2012 #34