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ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
9. The only bullshit here is from your sacred cows...
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:46 PM
May 2012

Being concerned about the social impacts of rate changes that favor one group over another isn't progressive? What about your own recent post about Duke Energy?

I tend to debunk the hyperbole and marketing crap that you and others push here. As someone hands on with solar (not a marketeer or someone with their head in the clouds claiming to be planning for the future) I feel that realism needs to be injected into some of the fantasies you are so enthralled with. Solar is a great thing, but the market and online forums are full of BS artists over promising what it can do on a practical level today. Most solar home owners I know feel it was oversold to them. I won't apologize for bringing realism into the discussion, especially since some of the schemes you push for would hurt the poor and those on fixed incomes.

Eventually we will have a distributed energy supply system, though there will be a great deal of expense and a lot of time needed to get there. It will still need infrastructure and maintenance. The companies that do that are the power utilities, and not all are privately owned. Those companies will change over time and it will be a good thing. However, in the process I am not willing to see people/consumers/users hurt. In your zealotry, you seem quite willing to throw them under the bus.

Explain this if you can:

If PV solar providers are paid at peak usage rates, where would the extra funds to cover the added costs come from? Remember that in the vast majority of cases, additional costs get passed on to the consumers and are not absorbed by the utilities.

Why are you so intent on enriching me?

What is their objection? BlueToTheBone May 2012 #1
Competition jpak May 2012 #2
With a distributed renewable grid... kristopher May 2012 #31
Over simplified puff piece ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #3
The issue is a public policy vote by the California Public Utilities Commission kristopher May 2012 #4
Actually I am explaining the facts as they exists today in California ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #5
The article is in no sense a "puff piece" kristopher May 2012 #6
Your usual retreat to ad hominems... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #7
Bullshit. kristopher May 2012 #8
The only bullshit here is from your sacred cows... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #9
Your diversion is noted but I'm still waiting... kristopher May 2012 #10
I answered your questions, how about answering mine ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #13
Bullshit, that isn't an answer any more than your earlier comments addressed the OP. kristopher May 2012 #14
You sacred cow is gored...I think it needs another injection of hyperbole... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #19
Poor "Progressive Professor"... kristopher May 2012 #24
dude just stop backwoodsbob May 2012 #29
feel free to explain in detail how that is so... kristopher May 2012 #30
. XemaSab May 2012 #28
How can you call a person who went solar anti-solar? Yo_Mama May 2012 #11
No, the "Professor's" points are not good. kristopher May 2012 #12
Actually they are excellent ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #15
Horsehocky - you are standing directly in corporate utility's shoes. kristopher May 2012 #16
Take some pics of your set-up and post them. Ikonoklast May 2012 #17
This is the internet. kristopher May 2012 #23
I have a pretty good idea as to where that poster is coming from. Ikonoklast May 2012 #26
That's a lot more efficient way of making the same point. kristopher May 2012 #27
Sort of like your solar setup is totally unsubstantiated? XemaSab May 2012 #25
Because I do not toe his line WRT to renewal energy and offer instead a more rational approach ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #18
More horsehocky. kristopher May 2012 #20
It does illustrate the level of ridiculousness that has blighted DU lately, no? NickB79 May 2012 #21
Really? kristopher May 2012 #22
If you are in California you might want to sign their petition kristopher May 2012 #32
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