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GliderGuider

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9. So what you're saying seems to be
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jul 2012

"The economics of the situation may not have restrained coal consumption yet, but it's going to do so any day now."

That's the worship of the invisible hand. It might happen, but it hasn't yet.

This post is just focusing on the facts - the facts of actual coal consumption over the last 11 years. it says nothing about what might happen in the future. I do think that global coal use is going to continue increasing for the next couple of decades, but that's just my opinion. Opinions are overtaken by reality every day. Until that happens, I use the last decade as a guide and expect tomorrow to look broadly like today. When reality does overtake my opinion, as it did with nuclear power and peak oil, I change my opinion.

Regarding Peak Oil, I refer you to the production rates of crude and condensate for the last 7 years, which have not varied by more than a few percent despite the price gyrations. My mistakes were in expecting that we'd see a sharper peak rather than a plateau, and also underestimating the economic impact of the 2008 price spike and the resulting demand destruction.



Your attempt to portray me as a nuclear supporter are funny. I haven't been a nuclear supporter since before Fukushima, and you know it. Your characterization of my position in the absence of any supporting evidence whatsoever is just a lame attempt at a smear.

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Jul 2012 #1
Do you ever understand anything you "read"? kristopher Jul 2012 #2
WE'RE SCREWED XemaSab Jul 2012 #4
Thanks Kris--great articles! diane in sf Jul 2012 #3
Part one starts off with misinformation. joshcryer Jul 2012 #5
Ya gotta wonder why this is happening, then: GliderGuider Jul 2012 #6
There's a lot of ignorance and misinformation in that post GG kristopher Jul 2012 #8
So what you're saying seems to be GliderGuider Jul 2012 #9
Is that what you believe? kristopher Jul 2012 #10
You're reduced to reading my tea leaves. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #11
That too lacks accuracy kristopher Jul 2012 #12
"The immediate economic agent crippling nuclear is natural gas" XemaSab Jul 2012 #13
Well, that gives wind ten years to close the gap, n'est-ce pas? nt GliderGuider Jul 2012 #15
One thing I've never figured out GliderGuider Jul 2012 #14
You have a point. joshcryer Jul 2012 #17
Especially when we don't even take ourselves seriously GliderGuider Jul 2012 #18
The invisible hand, indeed. Tata Group is growing out coal production. joshcryer Jul 2012 #16
Damn, they're planning on quintupling coal-generated electricity in the next 8 years! NickB79 Jul 2012 #19
You shut your mouth XemaSab Jul 2012 #20
Yep, OP is Orwellian double speak. joshcryer Jul 2012 #21
coal is on a surge worldwide backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #7
Yep, and the coal we don't burn we're shipping overseas. joshcryer Jul 2012 #22
Good to hear from Carl Pope--eom Kolesar Jul 2012 #23
One might read your post as sarcasm. hunter Jul 2012 #24
Go outside and get some fresh air...eom Kolesar Jul 2012 #25
Mmmm, 400-ppm-of-CO2-and-rising-rapidly fresh air, nice NickB79 Jul 2012 #26
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