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Environment & Energy

Dead_Parrot

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6. Higher than I would have thought

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 11:24 PM

Dec 2011

But as Bob point out, most of that is grid/transport energy that is (hopefully) being de-fossiled. The tricky cement bit isn't too bad (at least for onshore)

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Wind Power Produces Just 4-14% Emissions of Fossil Fuels, Even With Manufacturing & Decommissioning [View all] jpak Dec 2011 OP

Wind power not only doesn't "replace" fossil fuels - it requires them wtmusic Dec 2011 #1

Umm - unlike nuclear power - yes? jpak Dec 2011 #2

That's pretty ridiculous FBaggins Dec 2011 #5

I posted those studies earlier this year - perhaps you missed them jpak Dec 2011 #19

I retrieved this from the carcass of DU2.... jpak Dec 2011 #20

That explains how I "missed" them... they don't support your prior post. FBaggins Dec 2011 #21

You're partly, temporarily correct... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #4

Since you left out gamma rays from outer space and squirrel cages wtmusic Dec 2011 #10

Well... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #15

Solar ramps up and down slowly and predictably XemaSab Dec 2011 #17

Yes, we will need storage... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #18

Those numbers won't hold... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #3

Higher than I would have thought Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #6

Cement... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #7

Yeah, approximately double Jacobson's estimates. joshcryer Dec 2011 #8

Weird, it's not like Jacobson got his figures straight from the AWEA- Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #9

Well, Jacobson lists a few pages... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #11

Just yanking chains to see what happens :) Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #13

DTM XemaSab Dec 2011 #16

I already closed the PDF to compare, I think they're in the same range. joshcryer Dec 2011 #12

The paper assumes each MW of power capacity will be 300m away wtmusic Dec 2011 #14