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kristopher

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21. McKays analysis on that website is grossly in error.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:18 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

He provided the correct information in the hard copy but uses the invalid data on his website.

This blog link is worth reading fully:
http://energynumbers.info/british-energy-demand-and-professor-mackays-estimate-of-it-an-explanation-of-the-differences

...The numbers in the first third of Professor MacKay’s book all lead to the conclusion on page 103 that even if we used all of our renewable resource to its technical maximum, ignoring economic, social and environmental constraints, then it is not enough to meet our energy demand. And that (as he writes later in the book) this applies to Europe too?—?he writes: “Europe, like Britain, cannot live off its own renewables”.

And yet the figures on 103 are wrong?—?we all agree on that?—?you, me, David, the official statistics. So any conclusion based on them must be in doubt.



Indeed, there are plenty of reasons for doubt?—?because in addition to the inflated demand, the first third of the book also contains economic, social, and environmental constraints on supply, despite the statement to the contrary (I’ll write a bit more about the supply side in a new article, later). So those are not about the physics of the thing at all?—?they’re opinions. So, we have an inflated demand, and a set of political opinions on supply. That’s not (in Professor MacKay’s words) “what the laws of physics say about the limits of sustainable energy”.

As it turns out, Britain’s renewable resource is an order of magnitude higher than our energy demand.

And so Britain, (just like Europe and the whole world) can get 100% of its energy from renewable resources.
What's wrong is that it doesn't address the real problem. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #1
Or ... Scuba Feb 2013 #2
Unfortunately, that doesn't address the real problem either. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #4
Yeah, 'cause the sun's gonna burn out in a couple years, right? Scuba Feb 2013 #6
No, not that. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #8
Yes, and we've had that type of analysis since the 70s. kristopher Feb 2013 #9
Couple problems. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #3
It isn't suspicious really. kristopher Feb 2013 #18
Ignoring solar power for the UK is justifiable muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #19
London and Seattle have roughly the same kWh/m2/day. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #20
Can we check units? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #22
South-facing portion of my neighbor's house is about 1200sq feet AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #23
McKays analysis on that website is grossly in error. kristopher Feb 2013 #21
Can't get by without the straw men, eh? FBaggins Feb 2013 #5
You can't justify nuclear without limiting the competition kristopher Feb 2013 #7
Of course you can. FBaggins Feb 2013 #10
Hydro isn't like nuclear kristopher Feb 2013 #11
I clearly said "almost all ways that matter" FBaggins Feb 2013 #12
The difference is crucial kristopher Feb 2013 #13
Your analogy is close... but the small differences are vital. FBaggins Feb 2013 #14
Your rationalizations are really becoming pathetic kristopher Feb 2013 #15
Interesting that you accuse others of ad hominem attacks. FBaggins Feb 2013 #16
I'm still waiting for you to provide a "straightforward objection" kristopher Feb 2013 #17
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