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BlueStreak

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21. People who invest in turbines need to have a reasonable expectation of profits
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jun 2013

I guess if we really want to be "Republican" about it, we could say that the free market will reach its own equilibrium. But there are so few really free markets anymore that I don't trust the "unseen hand". What would undoubtedly happen, absent a regulatory regime that imposes a level playing field, is that we would end up with 3 or 4 gigantic companies owning 90% of the turbines, just as we have with cell phones, health insurance, airlines, gasoline, and almost every other large market.

The reality is that we are nowhere near the point where over-capacity will be a problem. That might be an issue in 20 years, but not now. But We really do need to try to force this into an open marketplace, and the time is now for that. You can bet that Exxon, BP, Shell, and the like are way ahead of that game on that.

I doubt we have any disagreement about that.

This is just silly. wtmusic Jun 2013 #1
Answer me two questions BlueStreak Jun 2013 #3
I think your implication is that wind and solar will continue their current rate of growth wtmusic Jun 2013 #4
They can expand 1000-fold before hitting any real barriers BlueStreak Jun 2013 #5
A concentrated deployment of wind turbines will never, ever, ever supply 100% of needs. wtmusic Jun 2013 #6
You didn't provide any evidence that wind ower cannot scale up BlueStreak Jun 2013 #7
Peak demand happens at about 7:30 PM wtmusic Jun 2013 #8
Do you understand that electricity is fungible? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #9
Half of the units are stopped because they're either broken, or the wind isn't blowing. wtmusic Jun 2013 #12
That just isn't true BlueStreak Jun 2013 #13
OK, points taken. wtmusic Jun 2013 #14
Fair enough. I agree with you in principle BlueStreak Jun 2013 #16
She didn't provide evidence because there is no evidence. kristopher Jun 2013 #17
Very interesting references BlueStreak Jun 2013 #18
Define "too much capacity" kristopher Jun 2013 #19
People who invest in turbines need to have a reasonable expectation of profits BlueStreak Jun 2013 #21
Quick somebody buy it so it can be shelved for 100 years. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #2
2016 renewables will be 2X nuclear, also exceeding natgas kristopher Jun 2013 #10
After Record 2012, World Wind Power Set to Top 300,000 Megawatts (300GW) in 2013 kristopher Jun 2013 #11
It really is transformational, and hardly anybody talks about it. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #15
Excellent point. kristopher Jun 2013 #20
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