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9. I used 30 year averages to ensure that I wasn't mistaking noise for trend.

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 05:40 PM

Oct 2013

In all cases three cases the rates are surprisingly persistent, which suggests that they're not going to change on a dime.

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The Viability of Germany’s Energiewende: Mark Jacobson Answers 3 Questions [View all] kristopher Oct 2013 OP

Looks to me like madokie Oct 2013 #1

It doesn't have to be a problem for future generations... PamW Oct 2013 #2

Wonder why Japan didn't follow that path? kristopher Oct 2013 #10

The question was why hasn't ANYONE pursued the IFR if it is so superior? kristopher Oct 2013 #13

The name is Pam!! PamW Oct 2013 #17

Nope kristopher Oct 2013 #18

WRONG! PamW Oct 2013 #19

I value the most effective means of reducing carbon emissions. kristopher Oct 2013 #20

WRONG, as per usual PamW Oct 2013 #21

No, Greg, you are wrong - again. kristopher Oct 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author PamW Oct 2013 #3

In a world with static or declining energy demand this might be true GliderGuider Oct 2013 #4

Lets not get too carried away here madokie Oct 2013 #5

happy to be able to oblige madokie Oct 2013 #7

More of your hypothetical bullpucky kristopher Oct 2013 #8

No, you used 30 years to fudge the numbers kristopher Oct 2013 #11

Actually, I didn't. Here's the graphic proof of what I'm saying GliderGuider Oct 2013 #14

The picture has already changed. kristopher Oct 2013 #15

Not according to the data I have GliderGuider Oct 2013 #16

You're pointing your camera in the wrong direction kristopher Oct 2013 #23

You stopped making the specific claims that Jacobson refuted. kristopher Oct 2013 #25

You can attribute whatever you wish. It's your belief system. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #26

Memo to sceptics of a low-carbon world – 'it's happening' kristopher Oct 2013 #27

What do Portugal's cars run on? What heats their homes? GliderGuider Oct 2013 #28

Tougher nuts to crack? kristopher Oct 2013 #29

I know that's the renewable dream, and that RMI are the head dreamers. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #30

It was abundantly clear you haven't got a clue... kristopher Oct 2013 #31

I call it "refining my understanding of the situation" GliderGuider Oct 2013 #32