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Response to kristopher (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:52 AM

14. CO2 is a well-mixed GHG. That means that local production is a global issue.

 

The existence of sovereignty means that each country gets to make its own decisions about energy sources. If fossil fuel demand declines in one nation, that tends to drop prices globally. Dropping prices tend to drive up consumption, especially if the product can be exported to places with higher demand. Given the variety of conditions in countries around the globe, there are going to be export markets for fossil fuels - as China has demonstrated. Others will follow in China's footsteps if they see an international economic advantage in doing so. And a lot of people out there aspire to an OECD standard of living.

Your graphs have a distinctly first-world/OECD perspective, and ignore the pent-up demand from the other half of the world. As fossil fuel prices drop and supplies stay on the world market, what happens to the rest of Asia, to Africa and South America? think they'll sit on their hands if there's advantage to be gained? I don't. If they don't, it will take a lot longer than you hope for the local problems of carbon emissions to stop being a rising global problem.

It's not so much the data you have a problem with, it's the conclusions I (quite honestly and transparently) draw from it. My conclusions are diametrically opposed to yours. Yours are based on hope, mine are not.

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