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GliderGuider

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28. What do Portugal's cars run on? What heats their homes?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

Portugal's primary energy consumption in 2012 was 20% low-carbon (14% renewables, 6% hydro) - and 80% fossil fuels. 60% of their fossil fuel use is oil (i.e. transportation) and 23% of it is natural gas (for peaking plants and space heating). They can trumpet 70% renewables if they want, but it's all spin because that's just in the electricity sector.

The proportion of Portugal's primary energy that comes from fossil fuels has fallen back to what it was in the mid-1980's, but they are using 70% more of the stuff. It's true that Portugal's CO2 emissions have been dropping recently, but that has more to do with the Eurozone crisis, in which they were major victims:

http://peakoil.com/consumption/electricity-consumption-in-portugal-collapsing

When Portugal committed together with the other members of the European Union to the 20-20-20 targets in 2006 it would be perhaps difficult for its political leaders to imagine that they would reached so soon. Six years later energy consumption in Portugal is declining in almost all fronts, the European Energy Policy has become largely irrelevant in this state. In recent days it became known another staggering figure, last month electricity consumption fell 6.3%, the largest contraction on record. This figure already has in account consumption seasonality and climatic variations, being thus set aside any transitory effects.

If in a first phase where the high prices of road fuels that fostered this energy consumption collapse, since 2010 it has been the recessive policy of the European Council guaranteeing the demand contraction. With the sudden hike of VAT on electricity late last years, from 12% to 23%, and the salary cuts imposed this year, the effect was immediate. It is to expect this contraction to last for the remainder of 2012, considering that the salary cuts will force many families to default on their mortgages, this way leaving more homes empty, that do not consume electricity.

Apparently this austerity policy is having a positive effect on Portugal’ s commercial deficit, the foremost element of the economic crisis the country faces. But this effect is merely numerical, naturally the impoverishment of the population reduces the amount of imported goods, but no economic reform has been put in place to reduce foreign dependencies, especially in the sectors of Energy and Agriculture. Any subsequent effort to retake growth shall hit the same old problems of a transport infrastructure almost entirely dependent on Oil and on an anaemic agricultural production. Any expansion of economic activity will continue to imply an expansion of the commercial deficit. While this knot isn’t undone there’s no way out for Portugal.

The austerity policy is, in face of this context, a way for whom leads the country and the European Council to neglect power. It is a turn of the backs on the responsibility invested on elected politicians to lead their citizens, to look out news paths into the future. They limit themselves to a scared (or scary?) rhetoric, that neither solves nor reforms, but simply spreads poverty. These are leaders that will hardly ever be remembered positively.

The example of Portugal supports my contention that the main thing that helps to cut CO2 emissions is not renewable energy, but economic decline.

Speaking more generally, the things that are conveniently ignored in all these rah-rah spin stories are transportation and space heating. Those are a lot tougher nuts to crack than getting electricity to run the lights.
Looks to me like madokie Oct 2013 #1
It doesn't have to be a problem for future generations... PamW Oct 2013 #2
Wonder why Japan didn't follow that path? kristopher Oct 2013 #10
Why didn't Japan build their own airliners instead of buying from Boeing / Airbus? PamW Oct 2013 #12
The question was why hasn't ANYONE pursued the IFR if it is so superior? kristopher Oct 2013 #13
The name is Pam!! PamW Oct 2013 #17
Nope kristopher Oct 2013 #18
WRONG! PamW Oct 2013 #19
I value the most effective means of reducing carbon emissions. kristopher Oct 2013 #20
WRONG, as per usual PamW Oct 2013 #21
No, Greg, you are wrong - again. kristopher Oct 2013 #22
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! 100% WRONG!!! both the name and substance PamW Oct 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author PamW Oct 2013 #3
In a world with static or declining energy demand this might be true GliderGuider Oct 2013 #4
Lets not get too carried away here madokie Oct 2013 #5
Agreed. I just wanted to get the idea out there, and this was as good a place as any. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #6
happy to be able to oblige madokie Oct 2013 #7
More of your hypothetical bullpucky kristopher Oct 2013 #8
I used 30 year averages to ensure that I wasn't mistaking noise for trend. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #9
No, you used 30 years to fudge the numbers kristopher Oct 2013 #11
Actually, I didn't. Here's the graphic proof of what I'm saying GliderGuider Oct 2013 #14
The picture has already changed. kristopher Oct 2013 #15
Not according to the data I have GliderGuider Oct 2013 #16
You're pointing your camera in the wrong direction kristopher Oct 2013 #23
At least you've stopped trying to beat us to death with Mark Z. Jacobsen... GliderGuider Oct 2013 #24
You stopped making the specific claims that Jacobson refuted. kristopher Oct 2013 #25
You can attribute whatever you wish. It's your belief system. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #26
Memo to sceptics of a low-carbon world – 'it's happening' kristopher Oct 2013 #27
What do Portugal's cars run on? What heats their homes? GliderGuider Oct 2013 #28
Tougher nuts to crack? kristopher Oct 2013 #29
I know that's the renewable dream, and that RMI are the head dreamers. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #30
It was abundantly clear you haven't got a clue... kristopher Oct 2013 #31
I call it "refining my understanding of the situation" GliderGuider Oct 2013 #32
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