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muriel_volestrangler

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23. Yet that 'warped thinking' follows reality, and what most people expect
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:23 PM
Oct 2013

Look at world CO2 emissions since 1990, and the EIA's projections up to 2040: http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/ieo/emissions.cfm



They show they have been increasing, and they expect them to continue increasing throughout the period. That 'warped thinking' has the evidence of the recent past on its side. It just expects human behaviour to not change.

Notice the green bar is growing much more rapidly (compared to its early years) than the black one. dimbear Oct 2013 #1
Mmmmm ... hope. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #2
Then our descendants will curse us with good reason. n/t dimbear Oct 2013 #3
Descendants? We're going to have descendants? GliderGuider Oct 2013 #4
So correct, . n/t CRH Oct 2013 #5
Can you fit an exponential curve to the green part? joshcryer Oct 2013 #6
I could, but I don't do that any more. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #8
Just fit it to the green. joshcryer Oct 2013 #11
Renewable trends to 2050, starting from 1990 and from 1995. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #12
Where do you account for this kristopher Oct 2013 #18
In this post I don't. I was just doing what joshcryer asked me to. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #20
You never do. nt kristopher Oct 2013 #21
Are you alleging that the growth will be more than exponential? joshcryer Oct 2013 #32
Thanks. joshcryer Oct 2013 #33
That's exactly the point I keep making, that the boosters don't want to address. nt GliderGuider Oct 2013 #36
If you suck at graphing here's an alternative caraher Oct 2013 #29
"Primary energy" is mostly unused heat by-product of combustion kristopher Oct 2013 #7
Carbon intensity is not the issue GliderGuider Oct 2013 #9
Carbon intensity most certainly IS a significant part of the issue. kristopher Oct 2013 #10
If we gain energy (i.e. carbon) efficiency the GDP will just rise faster. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #13
That is warped thinking. kristopher Oct 2013 #15
You can't please everyone GliderGuider Oct 2013 #16
Yet that 'warped thinking' follows reality, and what most people expect muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #23
When talking about projections GG's efforts are head-in-the-sand thinking kristopher Oct 2013 #26
Cute. New Policies is not even in Category IV. joshcryer Oct 2013 #34
CO2 is a well-mixed GHG. That means that local production is a global issue. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #14
Ummmm, no, you couldn't be more wrong. kristopher Oct 2013 #17
This really gets you wired up, doesn't it? nt GliderGuider Oct 2013 #19
Looks to me like you are the one struggling with personal issues kristopher Oct 2013 #22
GDP and CO2 decoupled for one reason alone NickB79 Oct 2013 #24
That isn't it - a corporate awareness of the benefits of energy efficiency 'boomed' in the 70s... kristopher Oct 2013 #25
CO2 intensity of GDP - USA vs. China GliderGuider Oct 2013 #27
Hopefully peak oil kicks in and saves the planet. happyslug Oct 2013 #28
My hope is for a fairly sudden and complete global economic collapse. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #31
You might get it, Watch the West Antarctic Ice Sheet happyslug Oct 2013 #35
We are losing the one war we need to win phantom power Oct 2013 #30
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