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kristopher

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19. I posed legitimate questions related to the actual policy under discussion.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:30 PM
Oct 2013

That would contrast sharply with your contributions to the thread. You have asserted (from "reading" the wrong document) that the California Public Utility Commission doesn't know the difference between energy and power based on the fact that they specified an amount of storage based on the peak power capacity of the storage resource in terms of the maximum discharge rate. Now that you are faced with germane questions that put your claim in doubt, you want to flee the scene.

Before you go, please tell us, how much energy "should" an EV battery store?

Or how about a home, commercial or industrial storage system? Is there a specific number of watt/hours they should each be expected to deliver, and if so, how many hours are going to be optimal in order to reach the cost effectiveness goal that is a central feature of the policy?

I mean, if they already have the knowledge that allows them to prescribe the best size for each storage medium, then why are they even doing this?

Storage is key to expanded deployment of renewables and, interestingly, to new transportation. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1
We have pumped hydro near here. madokie Oct 2013 #2
I know which one, I think. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #3
You got it madokie Oct 2013 #4
No but it sure looks pretty. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #5
We just call it the pump back madokie Oct 2013 #6
I just went and read the PDF... phantom power Oct 2013 #7
Sad, isn't it, what passes for technical journalism these days. oldhippie Oct 2013 #8
So you think of CPUC documents as "technical journalism"? kristopher Oct 2013 #11
The document I read was from greentechmedia .... oldhippie Oct 2013 #12
The document (PDF) PP referred to is from the CPUC kristopher Oct 2013 #14
The .pdf document from the CPUC referenced in the article ..... oldhippie Oct 2013 #15
California's Public Utility Commission doesn't know the difference between energy and power? kristopher Oct 2013 #17
The trick is inductors and capacitors... hunter Oct 2013 #20
The Flux Capacitor One_Life_To_Give Oct 2013 #9
Something you might look up is "Vector Inversion Generator" and similar technologies. hunter Oct 2013 #26
Like this one? One_Life_To_Give Oct 2013 #28
Why would they need to discuss "watts X (unit-of-time)" specifically in this document? kristopher Oct 2013 #10
Maybe because the whole article is about "energy storage" ..... oldhippie Oct 2013 #13
How does prescribing the depth of capacity assist the CPUC effort? kristopher Oct 2013 #16
Obsfucate much? oldhippie Oct 2013 #18
I posed legitimate questions related to the actual policy under discussion. kristopher Oct 2013 #19
[sigh] ... I really need to get a life .... oldhippie Oct 2013 #21
Or you could just be civil... kristopher Oct 2013 #22
Because the goal is to mandate storage requirements for their grid. phantom power Oct 2013 #23
Their goals are well presented in the papers kristopher Oct 2013 #24
Too bad we're not as smart as kristopher ..... oldhippie Oct 2013 #25
Maybe you're onto something... kristopher Oct 2013 #27
Kick kristopher Nov 2013 #29
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