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PamW

(1,825 posts)
32. Nothing erratic
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:56 PM
Dec 2013

Of course there is absolutely NOTHING erratic about a SPOT ON critique of the article from "The Nation". The bonehead that wrote it didn't understand the first thing about the science; especially when stating that fission produced Plutonium, when the actual mechanism is radiative capture.

Besides, the only thing classification officials care about is whether classified information is revealed, and certainly that has not been the case here. It is totally unclassified that the materials produced by the IFR can NOT be used to make nuclear weapons. US Senators Simon and Kempthorne stated that in the following rebuttal to a New York Times editorial:

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/05/opinion/l-new-reactor-solves-plutonium-problem-586307.html

You are mistaken in suggesting that the reactor produces bomb-grade plutonium: it never separates plutonium; the fuel goes into the reactor in a metal alloy form that contains highly radioactive actinides. A recent Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory study indicates that fuel from this reactor is more proliferation-resistant than spent commercial fuel, which also contains plutonium.

The fact that IFR Plutonium can not be used to make nuclear weapons is totally unclassified. How the IFR accomplishes this feat has not been revealed by either Senators Simon, Kempthorne, nor myself. So the secrets are safe and that is ALL that classification officials care about.

Additionally, the post from caraher demonstrates that he doesn't understand "compartmentalization" which is de riguer in the world of classified information. Not everybody gets access to classified information; unless they are "in" the compartment. In the 1990s, Selden worked for Los Alamos. DOE gave the job of evaluating the IFR proliferation resistance to Lawrence Livermore. So people from Los Alamos had no "need to know"; and hence Selden was NOT privy to the specifications of the IFR. The Lawrence Livermore scientists had that covered. Since Selden wasn't privy to the specs on the IFR; he can't know how the IFR accomplished its proliferation resistance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_%28information_security%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_to_know

The only scientists that were privy to the information and had the expertise to make their conclusions, were the weapons scientists at Lawrence Livermore. The conclusion of the Lawrence Livermore scientists, as detailed by US Senators Simon and Kempthorne in their rebuttal to the New York Times editorial is that the IFR could NOT be used to make nuclear weapons. End of story.

PamW

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2013 #1
Nuclear makes it far more difficult kristopher Dec 2013 #2
National Renewable Energy Lab's 'Renewable Electricity Futures Study' kristopher Dec 2013 #3
"Our report became the basis of President Carter's energy policy." bananas Dec 2013 #4
I believe things are different today; take the of evaluation of the CEO of NRG kristopher Dec 2013 #5
BS alert here 4dsc Dec 2013 #6
Care to educate us? n/t cprise Dec 2013 #7
It's likely the same old spin FBaggins Dec 2013 #8
What is carbon "free" PamW Dec 2013 #9
So is making cement madokie Dec 2013 #13
I don't think that's it. kristopher Dec 2013 #10
I'll take your word for it. FBaggins Dec 2013 #11
No, I support a 'path' that is well documented as most effective kristopher Dec 2013 #12
Well documented by WHO? PamW Dec 2013 #14
We can start with posts #1 & #3. kristopher Dec 2013 #16
NO such thing has been established PamW Dec 2013 #18
No, I'm saying you aren't a scientist because you falsely report the results of research and data. kristopher Dec 2013 #19
My reporting is ACCURATE PamW Dec 2013 #20
ROFLMAO kristopher Dec 2013 #21
How do you come to the conclusion that everyone who doesn't agree with you madokie Dec 2013 #22
You misunderstand.. PamW Dec 2013 #23
Show me a link where I got it wrong madokie Dec 2013 #24
Good for the goose; good for the gander PamW Dec 2013 #25
Well the goose didn't find any links to back up your absurd statements madokie Dec 2013 #26
PamW you're always throwing around all this about how you're a scientist and all madokie Dec 2013 #27
Evidently madokie doesn't understand PamW Dec 2013 #28
LOL Sure you do madokie Dec 2013 #30
Yeah! You don't understand. kristopher Dec 2013 #29
The pseudo scientist has about wore me out madokie Dec 2013 #31
We can't all be geniuses... PamW Dec 2013 #33
LOL madokie Dec 2013 #34
Nothing erratic PamW Dec 2013 #32
Nice straw man apporach to your failed attempts 4dsc Dec 2013 #15
You're funny. kristopher Dec 2013 #17
Cost-minimized combinations renewables powering the grid up to 99.9% of the time kristopher Dec 2013 #35
Not a good reference Searay60 Dec 2013 #36
It's an outstanding reference kristopher Dec 2013 #37
Read The Paper Again Searay60 Dec 2013 #38
As I wrote, it's an outstanding reference. kristopher Dec 2013 #39
Kristopher Searay60 Dec 2013 #40
Those are baseless claims kristopher Dec 2013 #41
My posts was factual, practical and experienced. Searay60 Dec 2013 #42
It's amazing... kristopher Dec 2013 #43
You Think A Lot Of Your Self Searay60 Dec 2013 #44
Yeah, yeah yeah... kristopher Dec 2013 #45
LOL Searay60 Dec 2013 #46
Unfortunately... PamW Dec 2013 #47
Talking to yourself again? kristopher Dec 2013 #48
Not at all PamW Dec 2013 #49
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