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Bill USA

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5. you could always go back to the figure 8 races, there's lots of crashes there.

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NASCAR hits 5 million miles on 15% Ethanol blend, with 20% less emissions... [View all] Bill USA Feb 2014 OP

FWIW, Indycar has run on 100% methanol since 1964 BlueStreak Feb 2014 #1

Argonne National Laboratory puts ethanol's GHG emissons reduction at 34% vs Bill USA Feb 2014 #4

This report says the CORN-based ethanol has a net NEGATIVE effect on carbon BlueStreak Feb 2014 #6

the article, from 2009 refers to a policy being considered by the CARB... Bill USA Feb 2014 #10

By "respected" I was referring to Sientific American, which is a respected journal BlueStreak Feb 2014 #12

comparing SciAmer to Argonne National Laboratory (ANL) is ludicrous. Bill USA Feb 2014 #15

ANL researchers have closely examined the effects of direct land use. Bill USA Feb 2014 #16

"better choices for energy needs" I would be glad to hear you site any.. Bill USA Feb 2014 #17

Wind, Solar, and conservation. All are better than converting perfectly good food into carbon BlueStreak Feb 2014 #18

we are talking about the GHG emissions from the light transportation sector. Of course I am for all Bill USA Feb 2014 #19

Efficiency. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #23

you have not stated a technology and its GHG reduction numbers. I need estimated or recorded GHG Bill USA Feb 2014 #26

who is the Chairman of the Calif Air Resources Board? Mary Nichols Bill USA Feb 2014 #11

That's all beside the point, I think BlueStreak Feb 2014 #14

you haven't established that food has been taken out of the supply chain. Our farmers are producing Bill USA Feb 2014 #20

No it's not beside the point, unless you don't mind full blown AGW accelerating until we can't rein Bill USA Feb 2014 #21

crop support payments to corporate farms is as abominable as tax breaks for huge oil companies..but Bill USA Feb 2014 #28

"not nearly enough"?: 29 million Priuses needed to achieve Ethanol’s current GHG emissions reduction Bill USA Feb 2014 #30

How about a 67% GHG emissions reduction for ethanol. The ethanol enabled Direct Injection engine .. Bill USA Feb 2014 #31

California's love affair with Big Oil - letters from a Corporate Feudalist State. Bill USA Feb 2014 #13

You aren't going to get past 12-15% efficiency for internal combustion engines. kristopher Feb 2014 #22

Pleasegive timeframe for achieving this bioelectric transportation. You're running out of time. Bill USA Feb 2014 #27

The tank to wheels of ICE isn't going to get above about 18% and avg will be lower. kristopher Feb 2014 #29

James Hansen a huckster? Give timeframe for achieving bioelectric light transportation..# of years.. Bill USA Feb 2014 #32

Earth Warming Faster than Predicted Bill USA Feb 2014 #33

Give the number of years investing in dead end technologies that preserve fossil fuels... kristopher Feb 2014 #35

compared to hybrids and PHEVS? I computed 20 years for Priuses (i.e. hybrids) to equal Ethanol's GHG Bill USA Feb 2014 #42

you're out of your mind: "preserve fossil fuels"? the Oil industry is fanatically fighting ethanol.. Bill USA Mar 2014 #47

alcohol fuel with turbocharging/supercharging has been shown to achieve 40% Brake thermal efficiency Bill USA Feb 2014 #34

You aren't going to get normal driving above 18% in an ICE kristopher Feb 2014 #36

What subsidy? The VEETC ended in 2011. You've drifted off again into your own private world of Bill USA Feb 2014 #37

What are you here advocating for if not subsidies and mandates? kristopher Feb 2014 #39

What subsidy? The VEETC ended in 2011. THis is 2014. Bill USA Feb 2014 #41

29 million Priuses needed to achieve Ethanol’s current GHG reduction. Cost: $232 Billion Bill USA Feb 2014 #38

I'll take Koplow's word for what the ethanol GHG reductions have cost us. kristopher Feb 2014 #40

You are really in your own little world aren't you. Subsidies are not needed by ethanol. It's been Bill USA Feb 2014 #43

I'm pointing out GHG reductions now it will take 29 million hybrids to achieve maybe in 20 yrs. Bill USA Feb 2014 #44

Koplow talks about hypotheticals "under some ....proposals" whose possibilities evaporated in 2011 Bill USA Mar 2014 #45

What polices are you advocating for - spell it out and quit playing silly games. kristopher Mar 2014 #46

again quoting from a 2009 article. the ethanol mandate does not 'cost' us anything,as oil ind says, Bill USA Mar 2014 #49

Koplow is an independent specialist. kristopher Mar 2014 #50

your linked article calculates subsidies for 2008 - 2022. Subsidies for corn ethanol ended 1/1/2012 Bill USA Mar 2014 #51

I've been noticing a bunch of empty seats at NASAR tracks over the last few years. unhappycamper Feb 2014 #2

NASCAR safety trend , is going in the wrong direction. quadrature Feb 2014 #3

you could always go back to the figure 8 races, there's lots of crashes there. Bill USA Feb 2014 #5

Was it my imagination or did the back of the pack create a wreck BlueStreak Feb 2014 #7

5 million miles too many... tinrobot Feb 2014 #8

Greenwashing. GliderGuider Feb 2014 #9

Wonder what the ratio of NASCAR VMT to NASCAR fan VMT is . . . . hatrack Feb 2014 #24

You know, I'd never thought about that aspect of it. GliderGuider Feb 2014 #25

and buys a lot of pseudo-scientific 'research' publicity (Big Oil's Big Stall on Ethanol see link) Bill USA Mar 2014 #48