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Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:58 AM Sep 2016


....But neither actually addressed the central issue that Netanyahu raised: why it is legitimate for the Palestinians to ask for a Jew-free state?

When pressed, defenders of the Palestinian position characterize the demand as no settlers rather than the uglier-sounding no Jews. The claim is hard to take at face value, as the Palestinians have never objected to Israeli Arabs settling across the Green Line, as they have in significant numbers. But, granting its sincerity, what does international law say about the demand to remove settlers as part of a solution to a territorial conflict? To answer this question, as part of a larger research study on settlements, I examined the fate of settlers in every occupation since the adoption of the Geneva Conventions—eight major situations in total. The results highlight how extraordinary the Palestinian demand is.

There is simply no support in international practice for the expulsion of settlers from occupied territories. In the many situations involving settlers around the world, the international community has never supported expulsion, and consistently backed plans allowing the settlers to remain in a new state.

Settlement activity is the rule rather than the exception in situations of belligerent occupation around the world. In places like Western Sahara and northern Cyprus, the settlers now make up a majority of the population. In most other places, they account for a much higher percentage of the territory’s population than Jews would in a potential Palestinian state. In all these cases, the arrival of the settlers was accompanied with the familiar claims of seizure of land and property, and serious human rights abuses. Unlike the Israeli situation, it was also accompanied with a large-scale expulsion of the prior inhabitants from the territory.


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More from OP... shira Sep 2016 #1
There is perhaps no better proof of antisemitism WRT settlers than this. n/t shira Nov 2016 #2
What happened to the Israeli settlements built on Egyptian territory? Little Tich Nov 2016 #3
There is no precedent other than Jews needing to be expelled. shira Nov 2016 #4
Do you have a real source to back up your argument? Little Tich Nov 2016 #7
A source for what? That settlements actually exist elsewhere in other occupied territory? shira Nov 2016 #8
Kontorovich's claims seem to be completely incorrect, Little Tich Nov 2016 #9
All because of political expedience. aranthus Dec 2016 #10
Interestingly, I think the settlements should be allowed to stay. Little Tich Dec 2016 #11
Interestingly, I think that they may need to be moved. aranthus Dec 2016 #13
I agree with you. Best case scenario, pretend there's actual peace & 2 states... shira Dec 2016 #15
For me, it would constitute Apartheid to remove an ethnic group in order to make place for another. Little Tich Dec 2016 #16
Do u think it's legal to ethnically cleanse Jews from the W.Bank? shira Dec 2016 #20
Just removing civilians is in itself not Apartheid, IMHO. Little Tich Dec 2016 #21
You keep saying the author's claims are factually untrue, without pointing to specifics. aranthus Dec 2016 #14
I could find six other examples of settlers being removed after occupation Little Tich Dec 2016 #17
Aranthus is right, you're wrong. With your 1st example, Gaddafi expelled Italians... shira Dec 2016 #12
Perhaps you should ask Kontorovich about his view on the removal of settlers in the six other cases Little Tich Dec 2016 #18
What 6 other cases? Be very clear please. I'll tackle 2 at a time if you want. n/t shira Dec 2016 #19
No surprises in there leftynyc Nov 2016 #5
Israel is evil to clowns who support Chavez, Castro, Hamas.... shira Nov 2016 #6
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