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azurnoir

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54. really is that your reasoning?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:46 PM
Apr 2012

so does the same go for commenter #6 or is it only me? you've been going on with this ugliness for hours now

Nice poem about Jews coming from a former Waffen SS soldier. n/t shira Apr 2012 #1
It is a very good poem, period. Deviate from the poem if you must and you make his point. Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #2
He's a POS nazi who believes Israel is a threat to peace, not Iran.... shira Apr 2012 #3
Rant away, and you keep making his point...thanks. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #5
Shame on you for this lie. You expose yourself. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #105
What lie? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #109
This can't be a serious reply. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #113
How very 2+2=5 of you. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #114
Notice your use of the past tense, as opposed to Shira for whom you are running interference. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #116
It took 6 decades for Grass to come clean about his SS past. Why? n/t shira Apr 2012 #117
You may be demonstrating one reason why he might have been reluctant. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #120
I'm not running interference for anyone. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #119
De facto, you are. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #137
A child soldier? At 17? oberliner Apr 2012 #131
A drafted minor, if you wish. Drafted. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #136
He volunteered to fight for the Nazis in the navy oberliner Apr 2012 #140
Your argument is not relevant and a distraction. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #142
I made no argument about nuclear weapons oberliner Apr 2012 #145
That is correct. Which is why you are engaging in irrelevant distraction. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #146
Fine, let's talk nuclear weapons and Israel shira Apr 2012 #148
Bush and Obama have both had to resist an Israeli push to start a war on Iran. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #150
Grass wrote that Israel will annihilate Iran's people in a war.... shira Apr 2012 #152
This distraction was not introduced by me oberliner Apr 2012 #155
seems he was drafted into the SS rather than joining voluntarily azurnoir Apr 2012 #4
And of course you believe him leftynyc Apr 2012 #33
no I think he was drafted as a teenager azurnoir Apr 2012 #34
That's what he says leftynyc Apr 2012 #35
well that's your prerogative isn't it? azurnoir Apr 2012 #37
Yup, my perogative leftynyc Apr 2012 #40
If Grass HAD enjoyed himself in the Waffen SS Ken Burch Apr 2012 #91
Cut the BS out WRT support for Netanyahu.... shira Apr 2012 #95
I'm not an "Israel hater"...just a critic of what that state's government has done Ken Burch Apr 2012 #99
Ehud Barak offered far more than Rabin was willing to concede just 5 years prior. shira Apr 2012 #100
Yeah...but that's largely due to the fact that he's STILL Bibi's defense minister Ken Burch Apr 2012 #101
Bullshit. The International Left blasted his peace efforts back in 2000... shira Apr 2012 #102
Thank you, Mr. Objective Spokesperson of the "International Left" JackRiddler Apr 2012 #138
You think Gunter Glass represents the Left? If so, how is it... shira Apr 2012 #149
I don't answer meaningless questions. You definitely do not represent the "International Left" -- JackRiddler Apr 2012 #151
Well, I don't expect Leftists to side with Waffen SS nazis... shira Apr 2012 #153
Shame on you once again. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #156
What do you have to say WRT Gurvitz' article about the International Left... shira Apr 2012 #157
You mean those more concerned with hardline ideological purity as compared to Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #158
Azurnoir, why do u think Grass waited 60 yrs to admit he was Waffen SS? n/t shira Apr 2012 #36
I don't know why do you think ? azurnoir Apr 2012 #39
Why are you refusing to accept leftynyc Apr 2012 #41
the same could be asked of you why do need to believe that he volunteered for the SS? azurnoir Apr 2012 #44
True leftynyc Apr 2012 #48
It was in the same autobiography that he revealed that he was drafted into the SS Panzer unit azurnoir Apr 2012 #51
On the contrary leftynyc Apr 2012 #53
"I don't believe anything he says" so then why bring up his autobiography? n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #55
It said he'd concealed it for decades, not that he'd been a member for decades Ken Burch Apr 2012 #58
he wasn't exactly cali Apr 2012 #164
but unfortunately for you it's not just me saying that n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #46
The fact that Grass devoted the next sixty years to confronting Germany's Nazi history Ken Burch Apr 2012 #57
Tell me what you think about post #67 WRT Grass.... shira Apr 2012 #79
I think it's not a particularly impressive argument Ken Burch Apr 2012 #89
Not impressive? Iran isn't attacking Israel through Hamas and Hezbollah? shira Apr 2012 #98
Other than daring to call out Bibi the Infallible on his demands for slaughter Ken Burch Apr 2012 #92
Grass whitewashed Iran's hostility towards Israel, its support for terror/rockets... shira Apr 2012 #96
I'm guessing that there are some people who are demonizing Grass Ken Burch Apr 2012 #56
Grass deserves criticism. The worst thing he said about Ahmadenijad... shira Apr 2012 #67
well I don't know about that however azurnoir Apr 2012 #77
Not surprised Ken Burch Apr 2012 #78
Is the Pope demonizing Israel? holdencaufield Apr 2012 #93
Do I believe he was 17 years old at the end of the war? Yes I do. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #108
Right, Iran is no threat. They attack Israel through Hamas and Hezbollah... shira Apr 2012 #110
Hamas is the result of Israeli violence. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #115
When you said Iran has attacked no one, you were wrong. Correct? shira Apr 2012 #118
Iran is supporting the Gazan defense against a perpetual Israeli attack. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #121
Gazan defense? They're very clear (on video in Arabic) that they really... shira Apr 2012 #123
Ha, ha: "Israel got out of Lebanon back in 2000." JackRiddler Apr 2012 #126
Yeah, they did. And Hezbollah started the 2006 war. shira Apr 2012 #132
of course on the flip side of that one could say that Israel has been in a proxy war against Iran azurnoir Apr 2012 #134
It's a rotten poem - the first four lines are OK LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #6
Thanks for stopping by with a crap review. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #8
So a negative reaction is crap? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #9
The blame Israel first crowd is having orgasms over it... shira Apr 2012 #10
You would think people would leftynyc Apr 2012 #43
ah so Leftish Brit and I are agreeing with Stormfront that's nice to know thanks n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #45
Why, yes, you are leftynyc Apr 2012 #49
only me ? I suggest you read comment #6 too anything to say about that azurnoir Apr 2012 #50
I wasn't aware I had to engage leftynyc Apr 2012 #52
really is that your reasoning? azurnoir Apr 2012 #54
The review was, learn to read. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #11
You must be reading a different review. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #12
I believe it is a fair bet, that he'll not be concerned of your opinion..considering his Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #13
They're allowed to have an opinion about someone's reaction of a review... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #16
I'm not into poetry, myself. Nor into Godwinising... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #18
Godwinising (don't all just love that word) holdencaufield Apr 2012 #76
Shame on you for this falsehood. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #104
Iran believes it's about Jews. It's why they fund and arm Hamas and Hezbollah... shira Apr 2012 #111
"...who became one of the GREAT WRITERS of the last 67 years" holdencaufield Apr 2012 #127
Or Dr Seuss... Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #128
Interesting comment from Tom Segev in Ha'aretz LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #7
He can become an contributing writer... holdencaufield Apr 2012 #14
Being familiar with Der Sturmer, it was violently antisemitic... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #17
What is anti-semitism? holdencaufield Apr 2012 #19
Criticising Israel isn't antisemitism... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #20
"Criticising Israel isn't antisemitism..." holdencaufield Apr 2012 #22
The bulk of yr post argued that it was... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #23
...the poem was not the slightest bit antisemitic... holdencaufield Apr 2012 #25
I'm sure anyone who's the slightest bit rational would agree it's not antisemitic... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #30
Violet, you obviously need a lesson WRT what is antisemitic or not.... shira Apr 2012 #42
And if I did, you'd be just the person I'd nominate to teach me! Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #59
You're avoiding the obvious... shira Apr 2012 #65
Pretty sure I covered all the obvious stuff in my post... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #68
and what about the Palestinian 'cause'? azurnoir Apr 2012 #75
What about it? That it's not at all antisemitic or bigoted in any way whatsoever? n/t shira Apr 2012 #82
well it seems you've had a change of heart azurnoir Apr 2012 #83
Yeah right, no more posting any of that as none of it's true. n/t shira Apr 2012 #84
well IMO Palestions love their occupiers azurnoir Apr 2012 #85
That doesn't give Palestinians or their supporters the right to be anti-Semites shira Apr 2012 #86
what kind of peace deal oh and what happens to nonJewish Israeli's in the Jewish state? azurnoir Apr 2012 #87
Please, enough of this BS faux concern for non-Jews of Israel... shira Apr 2012 #88
shira your reply so full of false accusations that I can only come to the conclusion azurnoir Apr 2012 #94
Talk about avoiding the issues.... shira Apr 2012 #97
and yet still more accusations and avoidance, Lebanon, Haneen Zoabi ......blame anyone else azurnoir Apr 2012 #103
Look, if you cared for Palestinian human rights, then I'd expect.... shira Apr 2012 #107
ah so I do not meet your expectation by placing all the blame on Lebanon and Hamas azurnoir Apr 2012 #124
You don't criticize them at all for their abuse of Palestinians.. shira Apr 2012 #129
still ranting because Arabs won't solve Israel's Palestinian problem I see azurnoir Apr 2012 #135
Az, you're the one who allegedly supports the poor Palestinians.... shira Apr 2012 #168
shira that is why I support a Palestinian state you can point the finger and the blame all you want azurnoir Apr 2012 #171
this is one of the most perverted viewpoints i have read in my entire life...... pelsar Apr 2012 #165
Perverted and antisemtic? how classy of you however polls have shown that half azurnoir Apr 2012 #166
Right Az, the Israelis always have the worst motives towards Palestinians... shira Apr 2012 #169
a bit of an exaggeration so now you accuse me of claiming the Israeli's are commiting genocide? azurnoir Apr 2012 #170
perverted it remains......expelling the arab israelis? pelsar Apr 2012 #172
pelsar it is you who called me antisemtic a few posts back and not for the first time either azurnoir Apr 2012 #173
I'm sure you're not going to get this holdencaufield Apr 2012 #26
I get what yr trying to claim, but even if you'd said that it's still not antisemitism... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #31
Is it really that difficult for you to reconcile that Israel IS NOT a signer to NPT??? Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #21
????? holdencaufield Apr 2012 #24
( 1) No, there are never enough ? I can fit in after reading your twisted understanding of Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #27
Retort holdencaufield Apr 2012 #28
You should read with attention to the inspections ( lack of) in the poem. Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #29
I think you've just produced the first editorial for the new edition. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #106
I know holdencaufield Apr 2012 #125
k&r Thank you for posting oh brave one...+1 eom Purveyor Apr 2012 #15
Despite Israeli charges, Gunter Grass is not an anti-Semite Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #32
Says Yossi Gurvitz, who writes of Jewish Supremacism and Judeo-Nazis. n/t shira Apr 2012 #38
Clearly he's a Nazi! n/t Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #61
It means that people who sound just like David Duke do not get... shira Apr 2012 #64
Oh, I forgot. He's not only a Nazi, but a David Duke clone! How forgetful of me! Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #71
You wouldn't have a problem w/ anyone writing about Islamo-Nazis.... shira Apr 2012 #81
About Yossi Gurvitz oberliner Apr 2012 #47
And the problem with that is? Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 2012 #62
It means he went from one type of fanaticism to another. n/t shira Apr 2012 #63
Since when has being ultra-orthodox or atheist been fanatical? Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #70
Are you saying that all athiests are fanatics? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #73
Intolerant Atheists who bash other religions are fanatical... shira Apr 2012 #80
Are you saying ALL athiests are intolerant? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #90
Not necessarily LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #133
Try substituing the word "Muslim" for the word "Jew" oberliner Apr 2012 #66
Or Christian. So what? Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #69
Even if that were the case, it would not equate to becoming a bigot against people of that faith Ken Burch Apr 2012 #74
Not necessarily at all. LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #141
Antisemitism: who gets to decide? oberliner Apr 2012 #143
Just FYI. There are a HELL of a lot of posters on DU who were brought up in some religion Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #175
I am not calling anyone a bigot oberliner Apr 2012 #176
The fact that he turned athiest is irrelevant Ken Burch Apr 2012 #72
What an excellent thing. Too bad all religionists can't free themselves. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #122
What about Muslims? oberliner Apr 2012 #130
It would be an excellent thing if all people freed themselves from faith-based religion. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #139
I would encourage you to spread that message across the Middle East oberliner Apr 2012 #144
The point is that your attempted character assassination on Yossi Gurvitz is irrelevant. JackRiddler Apr 2012 #147
No character assassination whatsoever oberliner Apr 2012 #154
Utter nonsense. n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #112
Israel has reacted with hysteria over Gunter Grass Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #159
When Grass claims Israel is about to annihilate Iranians, that's hysteria. n/t shira Apr 2012 #160
You've helped to make his point and often in this thread. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #161
Small window of opportunity for a strike on Iran Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #162
wowzer. how tone deaf and callous do you have to be to post a poem on this cali Apr 2012 #163
Your opinion on Grass is dumber than dumb and how callous of you but thanks for the kick. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #167
why honeypie cali Apr 2012 #174
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