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Response to shira (Reply #148)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:59 PM

150. Bush and Obama have both had to resist an Israeli push to start a war on Iran.

 

This push has come from the extreme right-wing leadership of Israel, counterparts to our own neoconservatives and Republicans, whose propaganda you support on a supposedly left-liberal website.

Iran has no reason and no potential reward from starting a suicidal war with Israel. It is Israel that has threatened war on Iran, repeatedly, and with credibility that they could actually do it, and on the basis of an absolute lie (that Iran will imminently possess nuclear weapons). This has happened in a most public way for years and you really have to pretend to be on another planet to put on that you didn't notice. The warnings that Israel is about to carry out the aggression preventively on its own, and that therefore the US must go all-in on the war, have been almost weekly in the major corporate news. "All options are on the table" in response to a fictional Iranian nuclear weapons program that the US intelligence agencies agree has been inactive since 2003. Even if it wasn't, it's patent insanity, pure propaganda, to pretend that Iran would involve itself in a nuclear war with Israel (and the US) on the basis of whatever handful of bombs it may finally acquire!

Israel is an occupying power that naturally has to deal with the resistance of the occupied. Hamas and Hezbollah are indigenous products of long-running Israeli violence against the Palestinians and Lebanon. Iran didn't invent these forces. Like any other military force, Hamas and Hezbollah seek weapons internationally and have received a supply from Iran -- just like Israel is outfitted by the US to the tune of billions of dollars a year. If that qualifies as "Iran at war with Israel" then the US by the same standard is equally at war with the Palestinians and with the peoples of the Arab countries (where it supports and arms dictatorships in a number of nations). The history is known. Israel has started wars and threatens war constantly. Iran has not started any wars with its neighbors. You don't have to like Iran to understand that.

The most incredible thing about your statements is the idea that you think they will be the least bit believable to anyone who is paying attention. These are highly insulting falsehoods, simply because they are so absurdly wrong.

(We'll ignore the usual smearing of Grass, since it's completely irrelevant; another falsehood and it has been dealt with adequately here.)

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