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3. What is interesting is that it is a study of the data submitted with the papers
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:50 PM
Oct 2013

not re-doing the experiments.

What is supposed to happen is that other researchers carry out similar, better designed experiments and verify in that manner. One famous experiment was Millikan's measurement of the charge on the electron (the oil drop experiment) where Millikan discarded large numbers of results for no good reason. But other experimentalists were able to carry out other tests. As it happened Millikan happened to be correct but, by the test used by Amigen, then this foundational paper would be too flawed.

Interesting this is almost entirely medically-relevant research ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #1
It is everywhere except the physical sciences, and they make mistakes too. bemildred Oct 2013 #2
What is interesting is that it is a study of the data submitted with the papers intaglio Oct 2013 #3
This was a lot cheaper to do though I'd guess. bemildred Oct 2013 #4
An interesting piece, still I wonder how much context it lacks. HuckleB Oct 2013 #5
Skepticism is good, I think that's the point of the OP. bemildred Oct 2013 #6
To a point. HuckleB Oct 2013 #7
People do disagree. bemildred Oct 2013 #8
Yes, and I'd certainly disagree about your claim here. HuckleB Oct 2013 #10
I know you do. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #11
To be clear: bemildred Oct 2013 #9
I've often thought that a lot of research is flawed due to poorly designed experiments. hedgehog Oct 2013 #12
That is a different can of worms, to me anyway, but yeah. bemildred Oct 2013 #13
Fifty years ago, public funding would have helped. But now a days, the truedelphi Oct 2013 #15
Yeah, it's like the normal career path now. bemildred Oct 2013 #17
Major issue there. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #43
Thank you for posting this. truedelphi Oct 2013 #14
Thank you. As I said, it's a pet peeve of mine. bemildred Oct 2013 #16
What I think about quite often: truedelphi Nov 2013 #18
Question: what International Protocols? reACTIONary Nov 2013 #20
Okay, truedelphi Nov 2013 #44
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #46
Some of that is ok, but the mercury in vaccines still isn't linked to Autism. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #21
I will comment. bemildred Nov 2013 #23
Good points. CanSocDem Nov 2013 #24
Thank you. It is certainly true that we are less healthy than we could be. bemildred Nov 2013 #25
We know what causes HIV. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #27
That's good news about Glaucoma... CanSocDem Nov 2013 #34
I'm not surprised it works for that. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #41
What I'd like is a real Health Industry, not the Disease Industry we have Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #37
Totally with you on the masking of symptoms. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #42
Your comment also, I would think, at applies to the poster upthread as well. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #26
I will be very surprised if autism does not prove to be multi-causal. bemildred Nov 2013 #29
The only reason that mercury in autism is still not linked to mercury is truedelphi Nov 2013 #36
Formaldehyde is natural in your foods. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #38
Sitting here quite grateful as that as of today's date no one like you is truedelphi Nov 2013 #39
I'm a skeptic, no matter what issue you hand me. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #40
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #45
The standards for research & science are much higher now than when the original research was done.nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #19
Bullshit. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #22
There may have also been financial incentive for the failed earlier studies. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #28
I was educated in the 60s, I don't have to research it. bemildred Nov 2013 #30
Ok, that's all you got. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #31
Good argument. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #32
Thank you. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #33
And they continue to become more stringent over time. HuckleB Nov 2013 #35
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