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NMDemDist2

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3. there is a saying around the rooms
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 12:04 PM
Feb 2012
"I can't, we (he) can, I think I'll let us (him)"


This saying was very helpful to me in early recovery. It's comes right down to what your wonderful essay points out, I had to admit my thinking and struggling had failed me and that I needed something else outside myself to help me.

Did that realization bring me immediately and gracefully into submission? Not by a long shot, but it did give me that tiny bit of willingness to try the actions 'that made no sense' in a desperate hope that SOMETHING would help me not give into that insane thought that the next drink would be different somehow.

I think on those first halting steps on the road to recovery, it don't matter how we 'feel' about the actions, only that we are willing to DO the actions. Whatever goads us to even attempt to instill into our ACTIONS (not our thoughts or feelings) the principles that allow us to live without the guilt and shame most of us carry deep with in us is enough to set us on the path.

Sadly, so often we hold on to the sickest of those memories in the mistaken belief that taking responsibility for those deep, dark secrets will break us. As Bill explains in the 12x12
In many instances we shall find that though the harm done others has not been great, the emotional harm we have done our­selves has. Very deep, sometimes quite forgotten, damaging emotional conflicts persist below the level of consciousness. At the time of these occurrences, they may actually have given our emotions violent twists which have since dis­colored our personalities and altered our lives for the worse.


It takes courage to look those monsters of our past in the eye, but there is a freedom that's indescribable once it's done. Anything that will give us the willingness and courage to do so is a 'Higher Power' IMHO. Whether it comes from a trusted friend in the Program, a group who shows the way, a "Daddy Deity" or just that overwhelming feeling of fear and failure that makes us desperate enough to attempt 'the work' because we have lost the will to fight anymore is a blessing in disguise.

As one of my beloved babies likes to say "I wish you desperation" since often desperation is the impetus to move us to change.

I didn't like the God stuff either. That was something I thought I would not get past applegrove Feb 2012 #1
Well written TygrBright. Tripod Feb 2012 #2
there is a saying around the rooms NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #3
"We are only as sick as our secrets" Tripod Feb 2012 #5
I kind of feel silly when I use what I call, "the bumpersticker quotes", tavalon Feb 2012 #9
Wow, "I can't, we (he) can, I think I'll let us (him)" tavalon Feb 2012 #8
someone explained ti me NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #10
Oh, yeah, tavalon Feb 2012 #11
thats worth a thread of it's own NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #12
Hmmm, I hadn't thought about doing it that way tavalon Feb 2012 #13
writing is critical IMHO NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #14
If I read all this! LOL tavalon Feb 2012 #15
the way i outlined is pretty much NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #16
I just ordered a metric ton of info from tavalon Feb 2012 #17
just don't get stuck in the paralysis NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #18
Well, you wouldn't qualify for me tavalon Feb 2012 #19
thats a very good question NMDemDist2 Feb 2012 #20
While I am not an alcoholic, I think it would be good for me to have the BB tavalon Aug 2012 #38
Ok Old Codger Aug 2012 #36
Like the uniqueness feint tavalon Aug 2012 #37
despite a whole chapter oldhippydude Feb 2012 #4
The power of the rooms tavalon Feb 2012 #7
I'm a Wiccan, tavalon Feb 2012 #6
It works. nt demosincebirth Feb 2012 #21
No it doesn't work, never has, and never will. Dembearpig Mar 2012 #22
You don't deserve a reply nt demosincebirth Mar 2012 #23
Numerous studies?? lins the liberal Mar 2012 #24
The background behind the 5% effectiveness / 95% ineffectiveness claim (LONG dissertation) progree Mar 2012 #27
well, that little troll didn't last long NMDemDist2 Mar 2012 #25
Heh-heh. I had a little bet on with myself about that one. I won. TygrBright Mar 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author get the red out May 2012 #32
Simple! Tripod Mar 2012 #28
I recently used the HP..in a different way.. Stuart G Mar 2012 #29
I'm so glad NMDemDist2 Mar 2012 #30
You will die with a drink in your hand! Tripod Mar 2012 #31
+1 demosincebirth May 2012 #33
Wow, how did I miss reading this before? tavalon Aug 2012 #34
I have bookmarked this thread. HelpmeHelp Aug 2012 #35
Exactly ismnotwasm Sep 2012 #39
I look at it a little differently ... Myrina Apr 2013 #40
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