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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
12. This was alluded to by another poster but....
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:50 AM
Apr 2017

under the law in many, if not most or all, jurisdictions, you can FORCE someone to get mental health treatment if they are in danger of hurting themselves or others. Of course, the criteria are very very strict and you have to prove to the cops and/or the courts that you are telling the truth and that the person, indeed, meets the criteria.

The cops usually know the criteria, it's part of their job. However, as one poster said, the cops are not famous for being kind gentle intervenors in mental health crises (they are simply not trained well, not that they are bad people). Cops are the absolute last resort.

Go to the mental health court in your jurisdiction. It's typically in the county courthouse and everyone working there knows where it is. The clerk there will know which paperwork to fill out and will help you as much as he or she can. You do NOT need a lawyer. Having a lawyer is helpful but NOT NECESSARY. It's not that difficult to do. You just have to learn the paperwork and procedures.

In my jurisdiction, it's called an ex parte procedure, and once your court date is set, you show up with your evidence (usually your testimony verbally) and see if you can bring an extra witness or two. If my memory serves me well, you need to have at least two eyewitnesses to the behavior to meet criteria. However, if that's absolutely impossible to meet, I would imagine the judge would accept only your testimony. You have to remember that this procedure HAS been abused, so you will be viewed very carefully as to your motives.

If anyone has strenous objections to that procedure for civil rights reasons, I'm NOT going to debate them with you. I get it, it is a way of forcing someone to do something. However, it's in the law to protect people from mental illness. Go take the debate to GD, NOT here.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

I am so sorry You are dealing with this. furtheradu Apr 2017 #1
Thank you. Lint Head Apr 2017 #15
Get help. I've experience this. During the anger phase the person can get violent and do harm. brush Apr 2017 #26
Seek professional advice cilla4progress Apr 2017 #2
another amen here nt steve2470 Apr 2017 #11
any chance this person would agree to see a medical professional Skittles Apr 2017 #3
amen nt steve2470 Apr 2017 #10
We're trying to approach that. Convincing someone to Lint Head Apr 2017 #16
We have talked about it but it's difficult. Thank you. Lint Head Apr 2017 #20
This is tough..because in a manic phase nadine_mn Apr 2017 #4
I'm so very sorry. Yes, it is very frightening Warpy Apr 2017 #5
Good advice... Rollo Apr 2017 #6
Thank you so much. Lint Head Apr 2017 #17
You are so kind. Lint Head Apr 2017 #19
Stay as far away as possible from this person. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #7
Thank you. Lint Head Apr 2017 #18
WTF? retrowire Apr 2017 #23
+1 nt steve2470 Apr 2017 #24
Seriously retrowire Apr 2017 #25
I think the OP wanted to avoid unpleasantness steve2470 Apr 2017 #28
Well abandoning family is a hell of a way to do it. nt retrowire Apr 2017 #29
agreed! to be clear, I do NOT think the OP wants to abandon family steve2470 Apr 2017 #30
No, sometimes it is called "staying alive." Warpy Apr 2017 #33
Well since the shouting is violent retrowire Apr 2017 #35
Cops here kill mentally ill people Warpy Apr 2017 #36
Post edited for clarity and wiser words retrowire Apr 2017 #37
so compassionate Skittles Apr 2017 #31
A view from inside the disease LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2017 #8
THIS IS EXCELLENT, thank you so much from the father of a bipolar son, the son of a bipolar father, steve2470 Apr 2017 #9
Thank you so much. Your information and input is encouraging. Lint Head Apr 2017 #13
Thank for this insight- do you mind if I ask a personal question? nadine_mn Apr 2017 #27
I became aware that something was wrong when I was in high school LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2017 #32
Thank you so much for sharing your story - that takes a lot of courage nadine_mn Apr 2017 #34
This was alluded to by another poster but.... steve2470 Apr 2017 #12
Thank you so much. Lint Head Apr 2017 #14
not much i can add here, but mopinko Apr 2017 #21
Thank you. Lint Head Apr 2017 #22
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