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DemocracyMouse

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17. Human nature includes both the organized and the loose.
Tue May 22, 2018, 04:32 PM
May 2018

This is a classic contrast between Apollonian and Dionysian modalities. If you don't like classic analogies, try chaos theory and biology (since we're gardening):

The human body has both the hard bones (order, Apollo) and the soft, flexible muscles and nerves (the loose, Dionysus). You couldn't escape a wolf with just one or the other.

There are no organisms, let alone networks of organisms, that operate with rigid systems alone. Some, like jellyfish, are fairly loose – but even they have tensile strength.

If you get rid of your experimenters, your creative community, you lose your adaptability.

You also have no vision and no fun. Gotta embrace both parts of the social continuum.

Besides, isn't the looming danger of the Trumpians that they have simplistic, rigid, fascist tendencies?

We need to go high, as Obama said, and embrace the diverse range of talents and modalities of the social organism.

We should embrace all the different suggestions for dealing with food distrubution and homelessness. We should also be more insightful about how an interesting action, such as guerilla gardening, can draw people into the larger urban gardening movement.

That doesn't seem like a very good idea. procon May 2018 #1
From the article, a lot of babylonsister May 2018 #3
That fruit was taken from private properties where they had permission procon May 2018 #7
Birds and small animals wait as we do for the fruit to ripen before they eat it. shraby May 2018 #4
That's just not practical for a crowded city sidewalk. procon May 2018 #5
A nearby city micro park with a war monument and a peach tree ... Marcuse May 2018 #8
The town I grew up in actually pulled the fruit trees out Kilgore May 2018 #2
Fruit trees are great, but city streets need shade trees. enough May 2018 #6
I would take all the bee-fearing, fruit-averse comments more seriously if... DemocracyMouse May 2018 #9
Thanks, Mouse, but many of us do indeed give more than "half a thought to how to feed the homeless." Nitram May 2018 #11
Those are good, but so is creative urban expression which is a little off the grid. DemocracyMouse May 2018 #14
I'm not sure this is a good idea. Fruit trees need fertilization and must be pruned on a regular Nitram May 2018 #10
Good intentions - Bless them, but--- packman May 2018 #12
I agree with the opposers. femmocrat May 2018 #13
I applaud NeoGreen and the punk urban gardening kids. You nip-and-tuck gardeners... DemocracyMouse May 2018 #15
Mouse, I applaud your spirit. But I wonder if it does more to make the "gardeners" feel good about Nitram May 2018 #16
Human nature includes both the organized and the loose. DemocracyMouse May 2018 #17
Reminds me of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Been a very long time since I read that! Nitram May 2018 #18
There are a few fruit-bearing trees on my block Retrograde May 2018 #19
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