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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
25. 4 to 1? in england
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 12:30 AM
Feb 2013

krispos; not only that, the ratio of US to UK homicides dropped from nearly 12:1 in 1973 to about 4:1 in 2000. That's the green line, by the way.

Rather it's lying by statistics, since the US murder rate peaked about 1993, from lower rates in 1973 & 2000.
You must also consider britons, that from mid 1960s to early 1970s, the american national gunstock increased from 75 millions to 150 millions, doubled, & the gun murder rate doubled at the same time (less than ten years). Do you seriously think there is no correlation?
(then it doubled again to 300 millions by now, 2013 - but it is surmised that better treatment of gunshot wounds since then, have increased the odds of survival of gunshots)

Cherry picking years, krispos, does not equate to rational argument. Dunno why you're so impressed with a 4 to 1 murder ratio anyway.

Ahh, good ol' Knife Crime Island. Glaug-Eldare Feb 2013 #1
so, how come it isn't working in Jamacia? gejohnston Feb 2013 #2
Because Jamaica isn't the UK jpak Feb 2013 #4
murder rate is still the same or worse gejohnston Feb 2013 #5
a rose by any other name~ discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #17
"This despite the adage, 'When guns are illegal, only criminals will possess them.'" ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #3
Hmmmmm... krispos42 Feb 2013 #6
Hmmmm... sensible gun control reduces gun murder jpak Feb 2013 #7
The British homicide rate went up after the 1986 ban, and the 1997 ban. krispos42 Feb 2013 #8
Not good at reading graphs are you? intaglio Feb 2013 #10
I made the graph. krispos42 Feb 2013 #11
Up 30%!!!111!!! intaglio Feb 2013 #12
Ummmm.... there's an OP today posted about how criminals in the UK are using flare guns krispos42 Feb 2013 #13
An OP where gun apologists are attempting to show "gun control doesn't work" intaglio Feb 2013 #15
I love seeing somebody from the opposite side fall into discoherence. krispos42 Feb 2013 #20
It's embarrassing that DU has this person as a host: you should see the immature "Ibid" thread apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #14
I personally feel the host has been doing an excellent job and has been extremely fair ... spin Feb 2013 #16
Perhaps they should make you Host - I'd trust that arrangement. I have always found your posts apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #22
Thanks for your support ... spin Feb 2013 #26
And the person that was responding, of course, wasn't being childish or immature. krispos42 Feb 2013 #19
SSDD + TL;DR. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #21
I know krispos42 Feb 2013 #29
That's nice. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #33
"this poster engaged in, like a childish little baby, all so he could get the precious "last word"" krispos42 Feb 2013 #35
That's nice. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #36
I noticed that your #84 & #87 responses to Krispos' rebuttal are -- what was it? -- "ibids?" nt Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #41
With 41 replies (now 42) in this entire OP, that's quite a hat trick I pulled. Math: apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #42
The host is doing an excellent job in the face of the hateful language of controllers... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #40
That's nice: apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #43
Perhaps you should use "ditto." Can't understand why you don't. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #44
That's nice. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #45
Per capita. Straw Man Feb 2013 #24
At least 160 shool shootings in the USA since 1950 intaglio Feb 2013 #28
Moving goalposts? Straw Man Feb 2013 #31
Guess what? The Finnish attack was a school shooting intaglio Feb 2013 #32
One of three. Straw Man Feb 2013 #34
The FBI collects figures that are reported to it intaglio Feb 2013 #37
that isn't true either gejohnston Feb 2013 #38
Not one to let facts ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #39
They obviously lack clarity of vision. SayWut Feb 2013 #9
Looks good. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #18
That's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen, and reminds me of something my Ex-BIL did... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #23
4 to 1? in england jimmy the one Feb 2013 #25
The number of guns doubled? krispos42 Feb 2013 #30
Interesting what a flaregun can do dizbukhapeter Feb 2013 #27
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