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Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
40. Weapons of choice.
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

That is a meaningless phrase. There are other weapons that are just as deadly -- even ones with a much smaller capacity, which, by the way, is a function of the magazine and not the firearm. A five-shot pump shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot will launch 45 projectiles at its target in less time than it takes someone to empty a 30-round AR magazine. Given Lanza's choice of victims and the amount of time he had before police arrived on the scene, it's questionable whether even a five-round limit would have made any difference.

Please also remember that every step that reduces the offensive capability of a weapon also reduces its defensive capability. Look at the FBI stats for defensive use of firearms. Why do we want victims to be outgunned by their assailants?

The search for a technological fix is a vain quest, but it is very enticing to those whose ultimate goal is the elimination of private ownership of firearms. Every little restriction is one step closer to a total ban. Honestly, if magazine capacity were limited to five, would you consider that your gun-control goals had been accomplished? Somehow I doubt it.

News Flash: US Senator understands polling. Scuba Feb 2013 #1
another misleading statement by the NYT bossy22 Feb 2013 #2
Bullet capacity limits? Clames Feb 2013 #3
That was my reaction as well. CokeMachine Feb 2013 #10
No limits needed: my bullets can hold their liquor. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #50
NYT may be in error: The Conn murderer Did in fact switch mags several times... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #4
This is true av8r1998 Feb 2013 #5
Thanks for the details. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #6
When are you going to get in a gun fight needing to change upaloopa Feb 2013 #28
It's done all the time .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #33
Funny av8r1998 Feb 2013 #38
Ummm.... really? av8r1998 Feb 2013 #34
Thanks for the corrections. I don't use guns as much as you so I don't give a shit about the lingo. upaloopa Feb 2013 #41
Ok, so instead of engaging in a debate av8r1998 Feb 2013 #44
Gunners don't debate they are all about winning upaloopa Feb 2013 #45
I am aware of that av8r1998 Feb 2013 #46
AS for your #3 oneshooter Feb 2013 #42
I know this too av8r1998 Feb 2013 #43
Banning high capacity magaines a start Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #7
You say this is just a partial list? Light House Feb 2013 #8
More wish list Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #11
why military? gejohnston Feb 2013 #12
Military Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #15
why would you exempt military for CCW? gejohnston Feb 2013 #16
Military and CCW Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #23
civil liberties should be the same across the board gejohnston Feb 2013 #25
WHat "mentally ill" would need reporting? uppityperson Feb 2013 #9
Mentally ill reporting Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #13
How mentally ill do you mean? Someone being treated doing well on SSRI anti-depressants? An uppityperson Feb 2013 #14
Mentally ill Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #18
There is a federal law that covers that gejohnston Feb 2013 #21
Mental health law Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #24
actually it is enforced gejohnston Feb 2013 #26
People who carry guns av8r1998 Feb 2013 #36
Please define .... Straw Man Feb 2013 #17
Magazine capacity Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #27
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #29
Then you're living in the wrong country n/t arcane1 Feb 2013 #31
Please justify 5 rounds av8r1998 Feb 2013 #39
Weapons of choice. Straw Man Feb 2013 #40
So by your definition, this is an "assault weapon"? benEzra May 2015 #48
There won't be any major gun control for at least 4 years. Dr_Scholl Feb 2013 #19
besides gerrymandering gejohnston Feb 2013 #20
1998 was the exception. Dr_Scholl Feb 2013 #22
Gun control Nasty Jack Feb 2013 #30
Uncontrolled? DonP Feb 2013 #32
Like in 1994, you mean? benEzra May 2015 #47
Haha av8r1998 Feb 2013 #37
Ummm... OK av8r1998 Feb 2013 #35
A ban on 10-to-30 round magazines would be even more politically toxic than an AWB... benEzra May 2015 #49
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