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benEzra

(12,148 posts)
51. Finn M39 on a 1905 Izhevsk receiver still bearing the Romanov crest,
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013
Yeah, & you're not machismo eh? is that a mosin nagant, or I think that was russian made, doubled as a good pole vault (pole for vaulting, not for vaulting poles).

"Machismo" is a noun. The adjective form of your insult would be "macho", would it not?

In any case, on the macho-vs-geek spectrum, I'm very much at the geek end (technical writer, Perl wonk, Guild fan) and very proud of it.

Yes, a Mosin...a very nice Finn M39 on a 1905 Izhevsk hex receiver still bearing the Romanov crest, rebarreled and converted to M39 configuration in 1942 at VKT in Jyväskylä. A fascinating piece of history, in my opinion, and not your garden variety M1891. Best group so far is 1 3/8" at 100 yards, which isn't too shabby for a rifle that's 108 years old.

How many gunowners have a personal gunsmith? I never did, not too many do

Neither do I. That's one reason the AR is so popular. You can rebarrel, change caliber, change stocks, free-float, install a match trigger, install optics, install a light, install a sling, change length of pull, and anything else you'd want to do yourself without every having to pay someone else to do it for you. That's a key difference between an AR and (say) a Mini or a Remington 7400.

IN FACT, in good part, people who'd understand you above would be ex army/marines & some law enforcement

Knowing what the hell you're talking about when it comes to firearms, firearms law, and the shooting sports is not a radical position. Distressingly rare, perhaps; radical, no.

People who'd understand what I said would be target shooters, competitive shooters, and people interested in the technical aspects of guns and shooting, instead of just bleating about what a gun looks like or how well it kills Bambi or what kind of noise it makes when you cycle it or what Cletus on TV says about it.

People who understand things like sight offset, ballistic coefficient, muzzle energy, how momentum affects recoil, and such. The people who know the difference between a rimfire and a centerfire cartridge, or know how to use a ballistic table. *Those* are the people who understand why a non-automatic civilian centerfire .22 isn't some uber-superweapon. It's a rifle, period. A non-automatic rifle, and a small-caliber one at that.

Bottom line, you're fighting to outlaw the most popular civilian target rifles and HD carbines in the United States and you don't even seem to realize it. But you're in good company, far too many legislators are laboring under the same misconception, and it is going to hurt the party in 2014.
the fear being that they won't be able to get one bossy22 Mar 2013 #1
+1 raidert05 Mar 2013 #4
thus creating a self fulfilling prophecy frylock Mar 2013 #7
Yet, there are ebbs in gun purchases, prob. when there us little talk of bans. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #17
post assumes they would then misuse them. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #42
+1 Pullo Mar 2013 #6
People own firearms for many reasons av8r1998 Mar 2013 #2
Dude, look in a mirror Mopar151 Mar 2013 #9
its not about NEED bossy22 Mar 2013 #20
I am fearful of those who carry loaded firearms in a public place. Mopar151 Mar 2013 #26
stastically you shouldn't be bossy22 Mar 2013 #30
"I am fearful..." Of course you are. The vast majority of the gun control issue is all fear-based. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #41
If you think those are sane.responsible gun owners...... Mopar151 Mar 2013 #43
Cycle of fear seems to leave out governments' efforts to ban Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #3
Pretty thin gruel rrneck Mar 2013 #5
I've never been scared of any firearm I've bought. ileus Mar 2013 #8
Good tools...... n/t Mopar151 Mar 2013 #10
They are tools. nt oldhippie Mar 2013 #14
The cause of gun control would be better served by sarisataka Mar 2013 #11
Assault rifles, a compulsion to warriorhood jimmy the one Mar 2013 #12
Interesting analysis sarisataka Mar 2013 #13
I tend to think the guns being 'vetted' by the military allows a buyer jmg257 Mar 2013 #15
I think what you say is a true perception sarisataka Mar 2013 #16
Fear and pre-occupation with sexual identity is an obsession with gun-controllers... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #18
"I'll take economy and flexibility any day" Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #25
In another time on DU I would have a chance of successfully alerting... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #28
Except the OP is about the cycle of fear that drives folk to buy assautlt rifles Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #33
Thats why police need them. beevul Mar 2013 #39
Police do not need them, except in special circumstances Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #44
I still cannot believe you wish to disarm LEOs. Jenoch Mar 2013 #47
Re-read your statement, tack. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #45
Umm, the AR-15 absolutely dominates centerfire target competition in this country... benEzra Mar 2013 #50
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #52
and this is why the debate goes nowhere bossy22 Mar 2013 #21
moi l'raison jimmy the one Mar 2013 #22
assume bossy22 Mar 2013 #24
Wow! A veritable air- burst of crap! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #29
And to think I wasted my time at the VA for a psych eval sarisataka Mar 2013 #32
ruger mortis jimmy the one Mar 2013 #36
Perhaps tone does not come through ... sarisataka Mar 2013 #37
Pop psychology: The cheap seats of intellectual inquiry. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #46
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #53
Whenever people react based on emotion rather than fact.... av8r1998 Mar 2013 #23
A perfect case in point. benEzra Mar 2013 #48
mosin nagant, a good pole vault jimmy the one Mar 2013 #49
Finn M39 on a 1905 Izhevsk receiver still bearing the Romanov crest, benEzra Mar 2013 #51
the romanovs & otma jimmy the one Mar 2013 #55
Yeah, I call bullshit rl6214 Mar 2013 #19
Of course you do. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #27
That's funny, I always thought that the cycle of fear drove efforts to ban guns. kudzu22 Mar 2013 #31
There is no effort to disarm the nation. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #54
My kids still love shooting our AR's....even my 8&10 yo's know ileus Mar 2013 #38
Perhaps you could comment on... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #35
Fear sells. Always has. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #58
Fear sells to the fearful. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #61
I wonder how important it is Jenoch Mar 2013 #40
Apparently, it is not important to those who don't wish to learn about themselves. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #59
what kind of mirror is it? gejohnston Mar 2013 #60
It was a rhetorical question. Jenoch Mar 2013 #62
Message auto-removed NCState Mar 2013 #56
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #57
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