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In reply to the discussion: America's Gun: The Rise of the AR-15 [View all]jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)52. pound for pound of flesh
pullo: Hunting bullets such as the the V-Max are outlawed by treaty for military use.
... hack89 Expanding bullets commonly used in hunting are illegal for warfare because they are considered inhumane. Any hunting rifle with an expanding bullet will be much more lethal than a 5.56mm/
Due the recoil with larger calibers (generally), accuracy would suffer (especially in a classroom). Pound for pound I'll bet the .223 most lethal (or top ten list), but not in stopping power.
The argument that ar15 is 'most popular' rifle in america is pathetic; so is crack cocaine, marlboro, they're death devices in sheeps clothing. The reason assault rifles should be banned or limited is to prevent their saturating communities so that eventually there is no effective regulation possible, & thus a possible killing field every day anywhere. That is the objective nra really wants, gun saturated communities, a big market for recurring gun sales.
The 22 caliber bullet is the 'most popular' to commit suicide with even tho it's one of the least powerful, a bit misleading since ~77% of suicides are not done by 22cal. The ar15 being 'most popular rifle' is misleading as well, since it's ~5 million available are offset by approx 200 million other longguns, & 100 million handguns.
Only a couple percent of americans own an assault rifle, the 98% others have more sense. It's no status symbol to own an assault rifle, no special talent to shoot it, no advantage to home defense more a liability, not cost effective at all but overpay - ownership is moreso a machismo trip to a make believe battlefield, like a video game in your mind.
correction/retraction: I meant momentum transfer to the fly would be significantly increased but even this is invalid, hardly any momentum transfer; was just exaggerating for effect with a half joke.
... hack89 Expanding bullets commonly used in hunting are illegal for warfare because they are considered inhumane. Any hunting rifle with an expanding bullet will be much more lethal than a 5.56mm/
Due the recoil with larger calibers (generally), accuracy would suffer (especially in a classroom). Pound for pound I'll bet the .223 most lethal (or top ten list), but not in stopping power.
The argument that ar15 is 'most popular' rifle in america is pathetic; so is crack cocaine, marlboro, they're death devices in sheeps clothing. The reason assault rifles should be banned or limited is to prevent their saturating communities so that eventually there is no effective regulation possible, & thus a possible killing field every day anywhere. That is the objective nra really wants, gun saturated communities, a big market for recurring gun sales.
The 22 caliber bullet is the 'most popular' to commit suicide with even tho it's one of the least powerful, a bit misleading since ~77% of suicides are not done by 22cal. The ar15 being 'most popular rifle' is misleading as well, since it's ~5 million available are offset by approx 200 million other longguns, & 100 million handguns.
Only a couple percent of americans own an assault rifle, the 98% others have more sense. It's no status symbol to own an assault rifle, no special talent to shoot it, no advantage to home defense more a liability, not cost effective at all but overpay - ownership is moreso a machismo trip to a make believe battlefield, like a video game in your mind.
correction/retraction: I meant momentum transfer to the fly would be significantly increased but even this is invalid, hardly any momentum transfer; was just exaggerating for effect with a half joke.
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Who is "we", and where did "we" do this? I was buying my own ammo for my .22 when I was 14-15...
Ghost in the Machine
Apr 2013
#59
We already know AR15's kill large numbers of people very quickly and effectively.
tridim
Apr 2013
#16
I'd love for you to compare .223 Remington to .270 Winchester or .30-06 Springfield (deer calibers).
benEzra
Apr 2013
#15
A 270 with a hunting bullet will cause MUCH more devastation than standard .223 ammo
Pullo
Apr 2013
#34