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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:53 PM

57. ar15 liability in the home

hack: How about a 6.8mm or a 6.5mm Grendal? Are you saying they are less lethal than an AR-15 in 5.56mm? Really?

dunno much about it but google, argue amongst your kin: autobahndriver, albeit 2004- The current 6.5mm Grendel bullet does not fragment due to the thick jacket with no cannilure (target and hunting bullets being used).
team member wrote: You are basically describing the 6.5 Grendell, which is really nice for long-range accuracy shooting. A dual-core 6.5 would just make the bullets REALLY expensive to make. They wouldn't fragment any more than a thin jacketed single-core match bullet would.
http://www.ak47.net/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=196236

Joseph Ledger (27 posts) An AR-15 is a "liability" in home defense?

Yes it's a liability, as most rifles; shoots thru metal doors, drywall, aluminum & even ~quarter inch steel. Unless they make .223 glaser slugs, HA.

Argue amongst your kin: 'lalalala' wrote: 1) In a regular home-invasion scenario, it's most likely going to be a close quarter type of situation, and an AR-15 type gun would be unwieldy around corners/doorways/hallways. Considering the average house has a length of under 21 yards, that's still well within the range of what a handgun could handle, so there's no reason why I wouldn't just use my 9mm. A handgun is also much easier to store securely in a bedroom but also have ready in a jiffy if it's ever needed.
.. 'bear crap' wrote: ARs sucks for inside the home defense. It over penetrates through walls and its too long to handle well in a small hallway. Shotgun or handguns are better for this. You need to re-evaluate the shotgun; you can change barrels for hunting anything and still change it back to a riot barrel for inside the home. Loaded with #4 buckshot it wont over penetrate
.. lalalala again: 4) The last scenario is home-defense in SHTF. I see most rifle owners saying that they will camp out in front of their houses with rifles picking off looters during a SHTF scenario.. If you're camping out in your house with a rifle, where would you camp out exactly? Upstairs window?.. Any camping locations that I can think of.. is highly visible. The bad guys could easily scout you with binoculars and snipe you before you see them coming.. in all of these situations, a handgun would be all a person needs. So again, is the extra investment for a rifle and extra accessories worth it? I'm thinking my best bet is just to save the money and spend it on more handgun ammo, and food.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111012021817AAcd0YC
.. m249junky @ ar15 dot com: The biggest problem with using a rifle in home defense is the velocity of the round, under stress if you miss and it goes through a wall and into your neighbors house and hits someone you are F*%#ed. A 12ga with 00 buck might not penetrate a IIIA vest but it will sure as hell knock them on their ass.

joseph ledger: .. you think that during a home invasion, a homeowner's reaction to having a loaded AR-15 at the ready would be, "Dammit! If I only I didn't have this rife, I'd have more of a chance!"?

Silly question, doesn't warrant an answer.

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