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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
35. The problem with "certain times and in certain places"
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:18 PM
Jan 2014

is that you don't know when or where those certain times and places will be until they happen.


I think you see carrying on campus different from me in terms of cause.

I get the feeling that you perceive that a student wakes up and says "I might need my gun in case there's a mass shooting during Brit Lit or Stats; I'd better pack my gun".

I perceive it as a person saying "I'm going out into the world today. Like I do every day, I'm going to bring my gun with me", and that person's trip taking them to, among other places, the classroom.


Of course, some people might have other thoughts... thoughts about crazy ex boyfriends or girlfriends of theirs, or of their current sweetie. Or those tough-looking guys that trailed behind last time classes were attended.

People don't like being told that preparing for their personal safety is a "behavioral disorder". Your statement about being in danger while attending college extends beyond guns into pretty much anything else you carry for self-defense. If I were to carry a can of police-grade pepper spray while wandering about campus, is that a behavioral disorder?

How about a knife? How about a taser? How about a stun gun? Or a club?

So, based on your argument, guns in class make it a safer environment for learning and discussion? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #1
My argument is that there is no compelling reason to treat university spaces petronius Jan 2014 #2
In principle, I agree with you Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #17
I don't agree that there is anything incendiary or disruptive about a petronius Jan 2014 #23
Really? You don;t see it? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #29
Not convoluted at all - as I said in the OP, concerns about CCW on campus petronius Jan 2014 #36
I appreciate your thoughtful reply Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #42
No but makes for a safer environment for going across campus in the middle of the night. gejohnston Jan 2014 #4
I always love it when men use female vulnerability to justify carrying guns around. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #18
mostly because they are buying guns in greater numbers gejohnston Jan 2014 #21
Trying to convince everybody who carried concealed that they have a mental defect... krispos42 Jan 2014 #28
Not a mental defect, but a behavioral disorder. And not everyone. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #30
I think I will decide ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #31
Did I say I would decide? I thought not. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #33
You decided that a classroom ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #34
Prefaced by "I think" Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #37
Uh, a decision is an opinion oldhippie Jan 2014 #39
If it's not scary for you, then it isn't for me. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #40
The hippie time was a long time ago ...... oldhippie Jan 2014 #41
Virtually every hippy I knew/know had a gun or knew how to use one. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #43
Right. LOL Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #44
The world is a big place; almost as big as your mind. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #45
The problem with "certain times and in certain places" krispos42 Jan 2014 #35
Depends on the individual and threat assessment. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #38
Won't make a difference. This prof is speculating Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #46
You equate classrooms with pool halls, restaurants and feed lots? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #49
But wait! There's more! Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #50
Absolutely. Straw Man Jan 2014 #51
Of course, I think it ridiculous to carry in any of those places. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #53
I know that you do. Straw Man Jan 2014 #54
CC puts innocent bystanders at risk pscot Jan 2014 #3
How so? gejohnston Jan 2014 #5
People with guns are a danger to themselves and everyone around them. pscot Jan 2014 #6
depending on where you are Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #7
Now why don't I find that reassuring? pscot Jan 2014 #10
do you understand the definition of vigilante? gejohnston Jan 2014 #11
Read your history, dude pscot Jan 2014 #12
I know history quite well. gejohnston Jan 2014 #13
Read your dictionary, dude. Straw Man Jan 2014 #14
With that attitude I hope you don't live in NYC clffrdjk Jan 2014 #8
Or LA Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #9
Did you forget what the CC stands for? Jenoch Jan 2014 #15
"Gun Chi", we've had a few folks here who claimed they could "just tell" DonP Jan 2014 #19
"One of them has been banned, ..." Jenoch Jan 2014 #22
It is the same one who claimed a bicycle tire was a acceptable defensive item. oneshooter Jan 2014 #25
I enjoy a good debate, but that one Jenoch Jan 2014 #26
There's gotta be an app for that. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #47
I had both a shotgun and a rifle in my college dorm room, Jenoch Jan 2014 #16
I agree with your hypothosis on Mash's erroneous assumptions. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #20
Very well said. Bazinga Jan 2014 #24
In my experience... krispos42 Jan 2014 #27
Why do they discount Virginia Tech and NIU? DonP Jan 2014 #32
Alcohol Free Dorms HockeyMom Jan 2014 #52
Try to pay attention to the subject under discussion DonP Jan 2014 #55
Not "feel" but BE and LIVE around guns HockeyMom Jan 2014 #56
So, you know a lot of 21+ year olds that still live in dorms huh? DonP Jan 2014 #57
You start college at 18 HockeyMom Jan 2014 #58
You really don't know Jack Shit about this do you? DonP Jan 2014 #59
There's a BIG difference between... Bazinga Jan 2014 #60
My experience at UF (C.'70): Upper division courses met in the Rathskeller. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #48
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