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flamin lib

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6. That all sounds reasonable but it's all about the hardware, not about gun violence.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:11 AM
Apr 2014

This approach is no different than the assault weapon ban.

Why not look at the issue of violence, define categories that you believe can be managed with legislation and then craft that legislation?

Suicide

Children & safety

Gang related

Or perhaps look into the prohibited persons list and see if legislation can be crafted to select them out by category.

I think further discussion of gun control is pointless, it isn't the hardware, its the wetware using it. Control who has the hardware.

One trap people fall into is "that wouldn't have stopped (fill in the blank)!". Speed limits don't stop all speeders and stop signs don't stop all cars but the commute to work would be a lot more adventurous without them. No law is 100% effective but people in general follow the law, hense the off repeated phrase " law abiding citizen".

Throw in a repeal of the Hughes Amendment banning new manufacture of full autos, and that's one Jgarrick Apr 2014 #1
+1 clffrdjk Apr 2014 #5
+ legislators have no vote without passing a basic aptitude/knowledge test re firearms facts. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #2
I've rethought my position on CCW reciprocity... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #3
I agree with many of these, and disagree with a few. SQUEE Apr 2014 #4
Spin came up with the idea based on SCUBA cert cards gejohnston Apr 2014 #49
That all sounds reasonable but it's all about the hardware, not about gun violence. flamin lib Apr 2014 #6
Yep the bans/laws that these suggestions would be repealing clffrdjk Apr 2014 #7
This a perfect example of what is wrong with the American Gun Culture. flamin lib Apr 2014 #8
How odd; I thought advocating for an expansion of freedom *was* the right place. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #9
So you're okay with more toddlers under age 5 being shot than flamin lib Apr 2014 #10
How many young children have been killed in the US with legally owned full auto weapons? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #11
This another case of gun culture gone wrong. flamin lib Apr 2014 #13
All right, how's this: Jgarrick Apr 2014 #16
We currently incarcerate more people per capita than any other nation. flamin lib Apr 2014 #22
Hence my call to legalize all drugs. That would reduce the incarceration rate, yes? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #25
Well yes more or less. It would decrease prison population and flamin lib Apr 2014 #26
You don't think murderers should be punished? That's a...novel approach to criminal justice. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #33
I suggest we try to reduce the number of them. flamin lib Apr 2014 #35
Again, what do YOU propose to accomplish this? NT blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #40
Until that happens, what do you propose be done to murderers...if anything? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #42
I have to say SQUEE Apr 2014 #17
Were the '86 ban to be repealed, prices would plummet and availability would skyrocket. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #18
The numbers before and after the ban on registration of new ones. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #20
how many full autos are there? gejohnston Apr 2014 #46
I don't think even the ATF has that number. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #47
You just said this would be just like the assault weapons ban and have no effect. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #12
Don't make this personal. flamin lib Apr 2014 #14
"This a perfect example of what is wrong with the American Gun Culture." clffrdjk Apr 2014 #15
I surrender to your impeccible reason and logic. flamin lib Apr 2014 #21
Why would I want different results? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #23
Uh, 30,000 dead people a year? Ya don't care about that? I seriously think you should evaluate you flamin lib Apr 2014 #27
Free clue - you make it personal... beevul Apr 2014 #29
How many of those are suicides? How do you suggest I stop those? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #31
See post 21. I am defeated by your splendid skills. nt flamin lib Apr 2014 #36
Yea but something tells me it won't be long before you try again with the same arguments. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #37
Yeah, but I have you on record as not caring about 30,000 gun deaths, so who in hell, flamin lib Apr 2014 #38
Really where did I say that? Please show me. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #39
Don't make this personal. (NT) blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #41
So what do you propose as an alternative. blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #19
I threw that question out to the forum hoping to generated useful flamin lib Apr 2014 #24
Not by passing more laws. blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #30
Who shouldn't have access to firearms? People in prison or on probation. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #32
good point gejohnston Apr 2014 #44
Thanks. Look forward to seeing them and working with you. nt flamin lib Apr 2014 #48
Why would you want to make silencers unregulated? Loudly Apr 2014 #28
Hearing protection should not be regulated. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #34
They are unregulated in Europe, they are considered safety devices. oneshooter Apr 2014 #43
it isn't like the 1970s cop shows gejohnston Apr 2014 #45
My quietest Supressor is 115 DB SQUEE Apr 2014 #50
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