Gun Control & RKBA

Prophet 451

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18. Sure, but...

Wed May 7, 2014, 08:21 PM

May 2014

...No-one is born a criminal. If we follow that train of thought, we might as well get rid of laws entirely since that would, by definition, mean we'd have no criminals. When laws are made, you have to assume that the perp was, prior to teh commission of the crime, an average citizen. If the perp is determined enough, they could make their own magazine or even their own gun. I could make a crude firearm with my modelling tools, I'm sure you could as well. But to some extent, the object of these laws is to contain the damage when someone goes crazy.
Banning extended mags isn't going to mean there are no more massacres, it just reduces the damage the killer can do slightly.

What baffles me is how our society goes about changing gun issues. Running ads saying "don't shoot people" would likely be ineffective (except for provoking some Daily Show segments). I think something we need to do is try and change teh culture that accepts violence as a reasonable way of negotiating issues.

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What does this quote mean to you? [View all] gejohnston May 2014 OP

I would say it's somewhat naive Prophet 451 May 2014 #1

while that does happen gejohnston May 2014 #4

I'd like to see that evidence please Prophet 451 May 2014 #5

IIRC Patterns in Criminal Homicide gejohnston May 2014 #10

Thanks, I'll look for the article Prophet 451 May 2014 #11

Most of that can't be done by federal law gejohnston May 2014 #12

The gun show loophole Prophet 451 May 2014 #13

Actually no, gejohnston May 2014 #14

Target the laws to the unlawful behavior, not general activity. blueridge3210 May 2014 #2

It's questionable how well we've addressed that Prophet 451 May 2014 #6

Out of 300+ Million? blueridge3210 May 2014 #8

I think the cultural change had more effect, TBH Prophet 451 May 2014 #9

Oh absolutely. blueridge3210 May 2014 #15

I actually agree with extended clip bans Prophet 451 May 2014 #16

And yet blueridge3210 May 2014 #17

Sure, but... Prophet 451 May 2014 #18

Not saying anyone is necessarily born a criminal. blueridge3210 May 2014 #19

Well, I think 8 would be too small Prophet 451 May 2014 #21

second Brit I have seen say something like that gejohnston May 2014 #20

No, not duels Prophet 451 May 2014 #22

Both of my older brothers and grandfather were cops in my gejohnston May 2014 #23

This might be a US/UK thing Prophet 451 May 2014 #24

could be, there is even a couple of country songs about them gejohnston May 2014 #26

I don't know if it using violence to negotiate issues blueridge3210 May 2014 #25

A grossly simplistic statement of an age old problem tularetom May 2014 #3

Not just anybody gets to buy many types of medical or Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #7