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sarisataka

(18,222 posts)
4. So a map
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jun 2014

That show gun ownership per capita with an explanation that immediately points out there is not a direct relationship between ownership and violence is putting the epidemic in perspective.

I suppose if you call a trend that is flat or falling an epidemic it isn't much stretching to say there is a relationship that you just denied because it is true in some cases- especially if you exclude Mexico.

Yawn. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #1
So you're saying Canada, for instance, thucythucy Jun 2014 #2
has nothing to do with number of guns per capita gejohnston Jun 2014 #5
"Isn't that the attitude of your average bong owner?" thucythucy Jun 2014 #14
just many things gejohnston Jun 2014 #18
Treating non-gun murders as less important is callous and unfeeling friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #7
Judging them by their actions ... beevul Jun 2014 #12
Straw man, much? thucythucy Jun 2014 #15
I'm sure *some* do care- but most downplay non-gun deaths friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #21
Your points are well taken, however in this particular instance.... NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #17
Honduras has a murder rate 22 times that of America? I would seriously want to take my children Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #3
So a map sarisataka Jun 2014 #4
Meh, just another repeat of the "guns kill you deader" meme... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #8
One third of all murders take place in Central and South America hack89 Jun 2014 #6
Because... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #9
Perhaps only the bad guys have guns? Hangingon Jun 2014 #10
How is that possible? You really have to ask? thucythucy Jun 2014 #16
In America we have cut our murder and manslaughter rate in half over the past 20 years hack89 Jun 2014 #19
We are not supposed to notice that poverty and corruption correlate... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #22
We have a horrible murder rate compared to countries like us. No one can deny it. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #23
Yet the point of the OP is that high gun ownership rates cause high murder rates hack89 Jun 2014 #24
I am fine with guns. But I have no doubt that if there were no guns the USA murder rate would...... Logical Jun 2014 #25
Extreme gun violence in America is very geographically localized hack89 Jun 2014 #26
caused by guns gejohnston Jun 2014 #27
Guns are designed to kill things. Stop the silly comparisons. I will take my chance..... Logical Jun 2014 #28
Not at all a silly comparison gejohnston Jun 2014 #29
Guns make it easy to kill people. LOL, why do cops/military carry guns? Get it yet? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #30
it also equalizes gejohnston Jun 2014 #31
You really think if there were NO guns that they would all be replaced with other weapons? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #32
Do you have a valid argument gejohnston Jun 2014 #33
You are being too logical, Logical Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #36
logic implies the use of gejohnston Jun 2014 #37
All of what evidence? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41
Europe was certainly more violent gejohnston Jun 2014 #42
And this had what exactly to do with firearms? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #55
I didn't say it did gejohnston Jun 2014 #57
Your problems are many. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #58
"Your problems are many." Jenoch Jun 2014 #59
No Jenoch. It means your problems are many Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #61
Thank you. Jenoch Jun 2014 #63
I'm sure the rest of the world shares your xenophobic view Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #65
You really have no clue. Jenoch Jun 2014 #67
Right, just that my opinion is worthless. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #68
If you have no stake in the game, why should it matter what you think about the game? Jenoch Jul 2014 #69
Do you think having family there gives me a "stake in the game"? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #70
One problem with several causes gejohnston Jun 2014 #60
I give up GE Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #62
Evidence. Straw Man Jun 2014 #54
Faulty causality. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #56
I never mentioned causes. Straw Man Jun 2014 #66
YOU "have no doubt" that the U.S. murder rate would drop? pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #35
LOL, so under your logic we should give guns to robbers to reduce injury's? Classic! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #38
There you go......with another childish strawman. It's your only ammo. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #39
No, based on what you said would that not prevent injury's??? You said it Einstein, not me....... Logical Jun 2014 #40
"Why do people carry guns for defense if they are not more lethal?" pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #43
You still have not explained why we don't arm robbers with guns to prevent injury's! Please.... Logical Jun 2014 #44
Because I don't need to back up a theory I never put forward, Einstein! pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #45
So you have no proof of this claim except something you read who knows where? LOL..... Logical Jun 2014 #46
"I get it. You got nothing." pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #47
LOL, you said it was a book! So you didn't even look before? Just BSing me? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #48
Unbelievable! pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #49
I understand your low post count. Asssume you were kicked off before. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #50
Again -- your desperation is showing. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #51
Ahhh......Ok Einstein! LOL! Sorry if feeling hurt! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #52
And sorry I destroyed all of your lame "arguments". pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #64
Again... krispos42 Jun 2014 #11
Your subject line doesn't match the map. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #13
*snicker* krispos42 Jun 2014 #34
I sure hope to add two firearms to my collection before the year is out. ileus Jun 2014 #20
just added one Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53
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