Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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43. how many are violent offenders out of the 25-30?

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:59 AM

Jul 2014

Off the top of my head I can think of six that are violent or beyond despicable. The rest is the standard fare of fraud, tax evasion, public corruption, extortion
Gary Becker-Possessing child porn and sexual assault on a child
Kwame Kilpatrick-pleaded guilty of assaulting a cop, among other things. That was before he got caught using Detroit's treasury as his own personal piggy bank.
Frank Melton-Conspiracy to violate civil rights (by tearing down a person's house), commission of a violent crime while possessing a handgun
Richard Corkery-possessing child porn
Bob Filner-assault, sexual harassment, battery, false imprisonment
James Schiliro-false imprisonment (held a gun on someone he wanted to have sex with)

How many for calling a notable politician a 'toxic c*nt or b*tch or sub human mongrel'? (as nra bd director ted nugent did), or called the bur alcohol tobacco & firearms (batf) jack booted thugs? (as nra vp lapierre did & resulted in ghw bush resigning nra membership, as did norman Schwarzkopf), or that Clinton enjoyed seeing children die due to gunfire (wayno again).

Loutish speech are not crimes. false comparison. Since we are here, how about "children of NRA members should be murdered"?

I wonder if ceasefire's ex-offenders are disallowed firearm ownership, or perhaps had it restored thanks to the nra & fopa1986.

Is that a serious question? If it is, then you don't know the law. Under the Gun Control Act, it is a five year mandatory minimum of being a felon in possession. Any felon including John Dean and Martha Stewart.

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CeaseFire employee/gang member charged with kidnapping and rape [View all] gejohnston Jul 2014 OP

Well, he would be a subject matter expert on criminal use of firearms. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #1

You mean a former employee who was fired back in April Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #2

He worked there before, during and after the crime friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #3

So do you expect every employer to monitor their employee's activities outside of work? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #5

He wasn't fired immediately after the crime was revealed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #7

I guess I should rephrase that, we don't know if it was immediate but it did happen shortly after Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #9

"Do you believe all employers should be held liable..." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #38

That is completely false. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #40

orly? The daily google-dump is nothing more than an effort to highlight the misdeeds of one person Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #41

He was still in their employ when he allegedly committed the crimes gejohnston Jul 2014 #4

He was fired. Period. He is no longer an employee, your subject line is false. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #6

Fine. I'll happily stipulate that CeaseFire is no worse than the NRA friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #8

So you see no difference between firing a criminal and re-electing one? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #10

CeaseFire is run by well-meaning ninnies, NRA's board is downright malevolent friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #11

Which criminals are on Everytown's board? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #12

Everytown is Bloomberg and his employee Shannon Watts gejohnston Jul 2014 #13

I don't like everyone on the board, but that does not make them criminals. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #15

some former members of MAIG gejohnston Jul 2014 #17

So former members, but no current members Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #19

their names were removed from the list once they were removed as mayors gejohnston Jul 2014 #24

So now you are a psychic that is predicting 4-5 crimes in the next year Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #25

I said probably based on historical trend gejohnston Jul 2014 #27

There's one crypto-fascist who liked to use his "own private army" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #18

I am no fan of Bloomberg, but what crime has he been charged with? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #20

I just showed you a few he's committed (not that he'll likely be charged with any) friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #23

He was still an employee after the arrest gejohnston Jul 2014 #14

He was fired three months ago shortly after the arrest Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #16

ever hear of the silver rule? gejohnston Jul 2014 #21

So in other words you have no evidence, only innuendo Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #22

That wouldn't make them competent employers would it? gejohnston Jul 2014 #26

I don't know tell me. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #28

I don't think they were covering for him gejohnston Jul 2014 #29

So you now acknowledge there is no evidence of wrongdoing and they do some good work Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #30

No. gejohnston Jul 2014 #31

So tell me why their hiring practices were questionable? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #32

perhaps gejohnston Jul 2014 #33

Are you saying they were unaware that he was involved in criminal activities Jenoch Jul 2014 #35

I am saying he had served his time Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #36

I was unaware this was a paid position. Jenoch Jul 2014 #37

Well I suppose we now know the real reason for his opposition to armed individuals. ileus Jul 2014 #34

A concern for occupational safety, it seems... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #39

CF hires a lot of ex offenders jimmy the one Jul 2014 #42

how many are violent offenders out of the 25-30? gejohnston Jul 2014 #43

hoisted on your own petard again jimmy the one Jul 2014 #44

excluding those crimes punishable by imprisonment related to the regulation of business practices gejohnston Jul 2014 #48

children of nra members, safe jimmy the one Jul 2014 #45

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #46

What Nugent said gejohnston Jul 2014 #49

address your misconception like a man jimmy the one Jul 2014 #50

wasn't a misconception at all gejohnston Jul 2014 #55

why can't martha stewart have a gun jimmy the one Jul 2014 #51

key phrase gejohnston Jul 2014 #54

backpedaling jimmy the one Jul 2014 #57

more like mistaken with a different thread gejohnston Jul 2014 #59

the ego's self exoneration jimmy the one Jul 2014 #61

is it my lack of integrity or gejohnston Jul 2014 #62

Criminals LOVE gun control laws... shedevil69taz Jul 2014 #47

you mean criminals hate guncontrol laws jimmy the one Jul 2014 #52

a push jimmy the one Jul 2014 #53

I meant exactly what I said. shedevil69taz Jul 2014 #56

demonstrably untrue jimmy the one Jul 2014 #58

control efforts prevent approx. 30% of criminals or potential criminals from obtaining a gun or comm gejohnston Jul 2014 #60

"This is obviously & demonstrably untrue, criminals are forced to 'obey' when they can't circumvent. beevul Jul 2014 #63