Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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4. Didn't a noted U.S. Senator refer to the .30-30 as a "cop killer" bullet?

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Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

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Ottawa gunman launched attack with slow-loading, John Wayne-style rifle: experts [View all] Electric Monk Oct 2014 OP

I was out back mending fences the other day and gave this a lot of thought. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1

"If Michael Zehaf Bibeau had wanted to kill more people, he could have found a different gun" Electric Monk Oct 2014 #6

The suicide by police part was inevitable, he must have known that. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #8

there is no reason he couldn't have gotten one gejohnston Oct 2014 #2

You can sneak anything into Canada. This OP is just another limp attempt to make a case. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #3

Didn't a noted U.S. Senator refer to the .30-30 as a "cop killer" bullet? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #4

Yes, and "armor piercing", since it will penetrate body armor benEzra Oct 2014 #7

Not as slow firing as they imply, but slower loading. benEzra Oct 2014 #5

Ok, now compare and contrast with this Electric Monk Oct 2014 #11

So what? The AR platform is too widespread to ban now... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #12

so why didn't he use any of these gejohnston Oct 2014 #13

Or one of these: benEzra Oct 2014 #15

I shoot competitively with a Rock River AR-15, benEzra Oct 2014 #14

I agree, your points are moot jimmy the one Oct 2014 #16

You tell 'em, jimmy! Broadsides full of cultural warfare have helped to make gun control... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #19

Thoughts... benEzra Oct 2014 #23

Well said, but you are citing facts to a culture warrior. Feelings are more important to them friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #25

True, but typing is therapeutic...helps alleviate chronic facepalming. benEzra Oct 2014 #27

you win a kewpie doll jimmy the one Oct 2014 #28

How thoughtful of you to proclaim what others' true needs are friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #31

Keep your kewpie doll, and I'll keep my AR, thanks. benEzra Oct 2014 #32

Wow. blueridge3210 Oct 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author DonP Oct 2014 #35

Good to have you back Ben DonP Oct 2014 #36

It's good to be back! Had some life events that took priority for a while, but all is good. (n/t) benEzra Oct 2014 #37

good to see you discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2014 #38

peruse jeremiah johnson's wound ballistics jimmy the one Oct 2014 #41

I did. First, the birdshot/buckshot/hollowpoint question. benEzra Oct 2014 #45

iwba jimmy the one Oct 2014 #46

More thoughts... benEzra Nov 2014 #49

tyrannical gubmint as defined by nra jimmy the one Oct 2014 #47

That's a pretty obvious scam, unless it's a BATFE sting. benEzra Nov 2014 #50

74% on the plus side, the unfake side jimmy the one Nov 2014 #56

So how inaccurate do civilian rifles need to be to be allowed? benEzra Nov 2014 #57

"The "conversion to full auto" canard is a red herring to cover for your real agenda". Indeed friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #58

Not much different from "Louisiana bars Ebola researchers from conference" friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #59

I don't smoke jimmy the one Oct 2014 #42

one of your sidekicks did a preemptive debunking gejohnston Oct 2014 #44

Speaking of accuracy, in the video you posted (#5) they are often only just hitting the pond. nt Electric Monk Oct 2014 #22

Quite so. But they can reacquire the sights during cycling, benEzra Oct 2014 #24

Curtis Rutt is an idiot. Straw Man Oct 2014 #9

I graduated from a lever action to a semi auto in 1984. ileus Oct 2014 #10

parliamentary lock box jimmy the one Oct 2014 #17

actually, it doesn't gejohnston Oct 2014 #18

learn what 'actually' means jimmy the one Oct 2014 #20

Canadian laws have nothing to do with it gejohnston Oct 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #26

fact check your own links jimmy the one Oct 2014 #29

actually, I did check my facts gejohnston Oct 2014 #30

j wants hair of the dog jimmy the one Oct 2014 #40

That bullshit is not even gejohnston Oct 2014 #43

With all this "foaming" and "range orgasms," I've been missing out... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #33

I feel left out - didn't see any orgasms at the range Saturday DonP Oct 2014 #39

I went to the range today, and didn't see any orgasms either. benEzra Nov 2014 #53

Must be a lack of "imagination" on our part DonP Nov 2014 #54

mo on big o jimmy the one Nov 2014 #66

Coiuld you be any less relevant to either the discussion or the issue if you tried? DonP Nov 2014 #67

most sailors are gunless jimmy the one Nov 2014 #60

The Remington 700 and Winchester Model 70 deer rifles... benEzra Nov 2014 #61

Curious on what the excuse to ban this will be Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #62

Hmm... Straw Man Nov 2014 #63

The only way to ban it would be to ban all detachable-magazine semiautos... benEzra Nov 2014 #64

what endorsements? jimmy the one Nov 2014 #65

Yup, just like ALL small-caliber autoloading rifles and ALL full-sized pistols. benEzra Nov 2014 #69

3% milk jimmy the one Nov 2014 #73

Specifically, 19 *names* were affected that could no longer be used in marketing. benEzra Nov 2014 #75

m16 & ak47 comparison jimmy the one Nov 2014 #68

Ummm, expansion/fragmentation is what keeps rounds from overpenetrating and killing your neighbors. benEzra Nov 2014 #70

on fragments jimmy the one Nov 2014 #71

our mutual friend jimmy the one Nov 2014 #72

Why are you so hung up on military FMJ? We are talking about CIVILIAN JACKETED HOLLOWPOINTS. benEzra Nov 2014 #74

It's a 1 way trip for most everyone who goes on a shooting spree. Kaleva Oct 2014 #48

Some news reports said he loosed off 50 rounds. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #51

Which, FOX? CBC reported he shot 3 at the War Memorial, and up to 4 inside the building. 7 total. nt Electric Monk Nov 2014 #52

Thanks for the info. I can't remember. It was probably an early report CJCRANE Nov 2014 #55