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gejohnston

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24. my last post of the year
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:37 PM
Oct 2014
but nothing about the 30,000 who die each and every year by guns.
In 2011 there were 16,238 homicides in the US, 11K with firearms. Most of those are concentrated in a few areas of major cities because of the drug war. 77 percent of the murder victims are men 90 percent of that 77 are shot. Not true with women. 17 percent of female murder victims are shot. There were 40,600 suicides, 52 percent by firearm. If there were no guns, there would still be 40,600 suicides, just no gun suicides. I care about all 52K of them. To me, they are all tragic and equally unfortunate. To people like Bloomberg, those shot are bloody shirts to wave in front of cameras for his own political power and culture war. The rest are statistics. I have no interest in power or culture war. In fact, I detest culture warriors, especially when they declare war on mine.

I may have allergies because of Monsanto, but my neighbors 9 year old never will. He's six feet under at the hands of his
father, a responsible gun owner until he was 60.
It doesn't sound like he was responsible does he? If it falls under what the CDC calls and accident, he was one of 62. Compare that number with the number of people who successfully defend themselves each year.

Speaking of Monsanto, here in CO we're fighting to expose GMO's. Spent two hours on the phone listening to sponsors of the bill and the many questions and comments from callers. It was very informative - can't say that about guns, because the NRA and their talking points get repeated over and over and over,
Here is the real truth. Monsanto (and gun control organizations) are corporate top bottom throw money and buy ad time. It isn't the NRA, it is the many grassroots groups and gun owners who don't like being scapegoated for political corruption and police incompetence in the cities. In the recall election, all of the opposing ad were purchased by out of state billionaires like Bloomberg. The other side, the NRA gave a fraction of one of Bloomberg's personal checks but the rest were grass roots. MDA is a fiction created by a PR firm headed by a former Monsanto head of public relations. There are some facebook followers, but nobody who puts their money or time where their mouth is. Bloomberg's coalition of mayors? They lose an average 5-7 a year to the criminal justice system.

while people like me get shouted down and even threatened online, even on so called Democratic sites, like DU.
I have never seen you threatened here. I have seen "antis" try to shout down "pros" in every forum I have been to.

Seems Colorado cares more about keeping people alive and healthy and many people are furious about that.
What really happened was a few politicians took Bloomberg's money and ignored the wishes of their constituents. Politicians who do that and do the "I know better than you" kind of arrogance and refuse to listen to the people in the districts deserve being fired. I don't care what their party is or if I agree with them or not. They should have been fired and were. I would prefer they be replaced by other Democrats, but that is the system.

In an other post, you mentioned organic pot. How much of that pot is grown by peaceful tax paying growers in Colorado and how much is soaked in blood? No, the corrupt oligarchs in Mexico have no fucking business lecturing us about our gun laws. How much is from out of state by the tie dyed Kochs? When I go hiking, yes I carry. The pepper spray is for the bears.
Edit to add:
I will continue to worry about my safety and especially my son who works for touring band. They spend a lot of time in states where guns are everywhere.
Statistically, he is safer in those states. He is also less likely to be killed with a gun in those states. For example, 2 of Vermont's 8 murders were with a gun. In Wyoming, 5 out of 14, four were with bare hands.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/20tabledatadecpdf

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This looks like a James O'Keefe style stunt. Or maybe Mike Bloomberg and his group. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1
The dregs of humanity shenmue Oct 2014 #2
People should behave better. Deer season opens Saturday! Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #3
given MDA's and Bloomberg's record of dishonesty gejohnston Oct 2014 #4
You Say Dishonesty otohara Oct 2014 #9
And just how, pray tell, do those recently passed gun control laws keep people alive? GGJohn Oct 2014 #10
Cops Love Guns otohara Oct 2014 #11
I'm not standing up for anyone, GGJohn Oct 2014 #13
Fuck Those Sheriffs otohara Oct 2014 #17
Instead of throwing around 60's slogan's, GGJohn Oct 2014 #18
Crime Is Down in CO by 11% otohara Oct 2014 #19
Which has NOTHING to do with the mag limit law. GGJohn Oct 2014 #20
Nada, None, Zip, Zap, Zero otohara Oct 2014 #21
Thank you for finally admitting that the mag limit law is ineffective and GGJohn Oct 2014 #22
Then We're Fucked otohara Oct 2014 #23
my last post of the year gejohnston Oct 2014 #24
30,000 is very misleading michaelhr Nov 2014 #28
How do you feel about the vitriol leveled against "Hobby Lobby" Fisher? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #5
Welcome to the internet Lurks Often Oct 2014 #6
You Want Me To Shut Up? otohara Oct 2014 #7
Do we want you to shut up? GGJohn Oct 2014 #8
I don't want you to shut up Lurks Often Oct 2014 #12
Thats rich. beevul Oct 2014 #14
"Have at it boys, I know how you like to mock my moms.".... NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #15
Whole lot of stupid in that thread. GGJohn Oct 2014 #16
The OP took off after their hypocrisy was pointed out. How *very* unsurprising... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #25
for the record on blocks Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #27
"DU gun owners talk SHIT about me" Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #26
Was there something in the Salon article you wanted to discuss? ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #29
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