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Eleanors38

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7. Uh, take a look at the leavings of controller/banners...
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:12 PM
Nov 2014

You've seen the hatefulness, the day in, day out insults, the never-ending claims of compassion, the enbracing -- publicly -- of a strategy of shunning, smear and moral condemnation. And it's been going on in MSM since before the innertubes existed. "Rational debate and empirical data" are what many DU controllers have SPECIFICALLY cast overboard, YoungDemCal.

You can expect a Big pushback, esp. among those on the right who are Not prone to walk over a gold-gilded political gift.

No, you shouldn't expect to "get that soon," as long as "blood on your hands," "cowards," "hidden criminals," and vast quantities of "penis" talk are the order of the day, here in DU and in the remnants of MSM. Some folks may get off to this anonymous trolling and hate speech, but remember this Hard fact: The "other side" of the 2A debate, both RW and an increasingly active pro-2A left, are in this for the long term, and are increasingly resolved to treat gun controllers & banners like Grant treated Lee until Appomattox.
If you want to change the outlook, act on that over which you have some measure of control: gun controller/banner behavior, language and values.

My $2.

Are you blaming this on the "gun culture" exclusively? GGJohn Nov 2014 #1
rational debate is possible gejohnston Nov 2014 #2
As I recall you believe Moms Demand Action is a CIA psyops type organization and flamin lib Nov 2014 #3
No, I said it was astro turf gejohnston Nov 2014 #4
No, you used those words. nt flamin lib Nov 2014 #5
Then you can provide a link. Nt hack89 Nov 2014 #9
So far, no link has been provided. Let's see what happens... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #48
Will not happen. Nt Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #53
This "moms demand action"? beevul Nov 2014 #34
That might have been me, except that I say James OKeefe types are walking around Krogers... NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #64
I can agree sarisataka Nov 2014 #6
Uh, take a look at the leavings of controller/banners... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #7
Here's a thread tarted by 1 DU'er but after I commented our esteemed colleague Hoyt inveighed -- Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #63
I don't think rationality will ever be possible in the United States, period. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #8
We always called "Bonanza" "Bananas." nt Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #23
All I know is that if Democrats take heavy losses across the board tomorrow... derby378 Nov 2014 #10
Wish that I could share your (optimistic) idea that Democrats can learn pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #17
The extremests on the side of Jenoch Nov 2014 #11
If by "rational debate" you mean "civil and thoughtful discussion of the issue" then yes, benEzra Nov 2014 #12
You are right, Youngdem. Just look at the responses to your OP. flamin lib Nov 2014 #13
and you make the point perfectly Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #14
No my little dingleberry. I point out how those who try are treated here. I only give as good as I flamin lib Nov 2014 #16
The voice of rational discourse. Straw Man Nov 2014 #20
at least I do not have to lower myself to name calling Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #22
"Dingleberry?" Sounds like Christmas cheer! Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #24
I'm sorry, but you brought this on yourself... derby378 Nov 2014 #32
Ah...the *Mommy Mommy he did it first "argument".* pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #61
My, my. Straw Man Nov 2014 #19
Complaining of "controller/banner" descriptors in Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #25
Its not a chicken or egg situation. The hostility to even the most modest suggestions flamin lib Nov 2014 #28
You are STILL wading through your own irony. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #30
I don't think that word means what you think it does. And yes, replying in flamin lib Nov 2014 #33
On DU, the 'gun nuts' are the posters whp use logic in their discussion. Jenoch Nov 2014 #40
I'm not really hurt (a big-time goal on the 'tubes, I guess). Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #47
Are you seriously trying to tell me the gunlove bunch flamin lib Nov 2014 #49
Try to have a good day. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #50
I see you object to eating a dish your side *also* serves... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #52
I do find it amazing Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #54
You insult people and then use their taking offense at being insulted as justification for insulting Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #58
Not with the "control culture" in this country and the willful ignorance associated with it. pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #15
In my case you called me names, insulted my intelligence and integrity. flamin lib Nov 2014 #31
Your description of yourself makes you a 'gun nut' to most DUers. Jenoch Nov 2014 #41
No, it doesn't. nt flamin lib Nov 2014 #42
Of course you are. Jenoch Nov 2014 #43
No, I'm not a gun nut and very few on DU, if any, think so. nt flamin lib Nov 2014 #45
The controller side does Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #55
So provide a link. I don't go after people who don't deserve it. pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #57
I cannot bring myself to support gun control anymore. acalix Nov 2014 #18
Liberals are at their best when being liberal. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #26
The slippery slope fallacy is what the NRA used to defeat a bill outlawing the sale of dog and cat flamin lib Nov 2014 #29
I've seen it all to well acalix Nov 2014 #35
Are there any regulations that gain support here? Any at all? flamin lib Nov 2014 #36
Comparing licensing cars might seem valid superficially acalix Nov 2014 #37
So you're saying that a small minority should outweigh the vast majority? flamin lib Nov 2014 #39
A lot of anti's want to make guns out to be the next tobacco. acalix Nov 2014 #46
Thats not the only problem. beevul Nov 2014 #44
The answer is simple. beevul Nov 2014 #38
If you had *any* ability to confront your biases you'd see that there is some merit pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #59
A great body of empirical data exists now, it's not even about Constitutional interpretation. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #21
As long as the regressives remain fixated on an object there's nothing to debate. ileus Nov 2014 #27
Very well said, sir. *WELL* said. NT pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #60
Me too shenmue Nov 2014 #51
I tend to agree---fucking gun nuts! gopiscrap Nov 2014 #56
Define gun nut sarisataka Nov 2014 #62
Here's what the "rational dialog" is earning pro-restriction supporters: pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #65
Gun ownership is my choice. MicaelS Nov 2014 #66
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