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benEzra

(12,148 posts)
9. No, gun ownership has been steady since the mid-1990s, while murders decreased 50%.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014


http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/Guns.aspx

What does change on short time scales is the willingness of gun owners to discuss a very private matter with some stranger who cold-calls you on the phone, claims to be taking a survey, and asks you if you own guns. Look at the two data points on opposite sides of the 1994 gun-control debacle; a thirteen point drop in one survey, and then back up to 42% where it's been for more than a decade now.

That doesn't mean that fifteen million households sold all their guns (or lost them in tragic boating accidents) in 1994 and then eight or ten million households bought them back a couple years later. What it demonstrates is that the more hostile the climate, the less inclined gun owners are to tell some random caller about what valuables they own and how they store them. I'm one of them; I talk about gun ownership here where I am relatively anonymous, but I damn sure won't tell some caller I don't personally know.

One thing some people also forget when looking at rates is that there are way more households than there used to be per capita, so the fact that per-household ownership rate is holding steady is actually growth in absolute numbers, as you know.

It's not just homicides; all crimes are down. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1
Good point about total crime being down! benEzra Nov 2014 #2
a real contributing reason for drop in crime jimmy the one Nov 2014 #3
Your post shows that gun ownership has kioa Nov 2014 #5
repeat jimmy the one Nov 2014 #7
No, gun ownership has been steady since the mid-1990s, while murders decreased 50%. benEzra Nov 2014 #9
BJS & gallup jimmy the one Nov 2014 #17
bjs murder rates stats jimmy the one Nov 2014 #18
Guns per capita vs murder rate. kioa Nov 2014 #19
california apples, florida oranges jimmy the one Nov 2014 #20
Hardly. Both my & your examples show zero correlation between guns per capita & murder rates. kioa Nov 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #22
We weren't supposed to notice that TX has more guns per capita and less murder than CA friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #23
buy a new deck of cards jimmy the one Nov 2014 #24
You are now contradicting what you've been claiming in the other thread friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #25
"I have a sneaking suspicion you're not playing with a full deck of cards. " blueridge3210 Nov 2014 #26
et tu jimmy the one Dec 2014 #27
Um, yeah. blueridge3210 Dec 2014 #28
Oh, really? Did a bunch of guns just disappear? Did they magically vaporize? NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #12
'Tragic canoeing accidents'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #16
How odd, crime is down while firearms sales reached all time highs Lurks Often Nov 2014 #4
such dishonesty jimmy the one Nov 2014 #6
"You are well aware of what I've just posted"-and it's just as true now than it was then friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #8
I am struck by decline in handgun homicides. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #10
50,000 stolen guns a year are more than enough to supply all the criminals with guns..... Logical Nov 2014 #11
a claim of 50,000/year melm00se Nov 2014 #13
What? That is only guns stolen from FFL holders. Not home burglarys, etc. Not sure..... Logical Nov 2014 #14
Here you go, I was wrong, it was 190,000 in 2012....... Logical Nov 2014 #15
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