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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
24. buy a new deck of cards
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

icon: And Texas has more people than New York State and Florida, with "several large urbanized cities"
(Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Fort Worth, El Paso) "with large population densities"


So what's your point this time? gun control New York has ~25% lower murder rate with half the gun ownership rate, than texas;
Pro gun Texas only has ~6% lower murder rate than gun control California which has ~9% lower murder rate than pro gun florida.
Texas has 20.8 million in 2010 census, while new York has 19.0, that's called parity jack, for comparison purposes.
California has 34 mill, florida 16 mill, the next in line Illinois with 13 million.
What's your point jack?

icon: I have a sneaking suspicion that our interlocutor is engaging in some sort of Kaufmanesque roleplay...

I have a sneaking suspicion you're not playing with a full deck of cards.

what I originally wrote: The best way to compare California, is with only 3 other comparable states, new York, florida, & texas, somewhat conveniently two pro gun, two gun control. 2013 stats:
Florida murder rate. .. 5.0 ... gun ownership rate 24.5% (due in part retirees)
California murder rate 4.6 .... ....................... 21.3
Texas murder rate .... 4.3 ............................. 36
New York murd rate.. 3.3 ...............................18
-- so calif/ny 3.95 avg edges out texas/flor 4.65

It's not just homicides; all crimes are down. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1
Good point about total crime being down! benEzra Nov 2014 #2
a real contributing reason for drop in crime jimmy the one Nov 2014 #3
Your post shows that gun ownership has kioa Nov 2014 #5
repeat jimmy the one Nov 2014 #7
No, gun ownership has been steady since the mid-1990s, while murders decreased 50%. benEzra Nov 2014 #9
BJS & gallup jimmy the one Nov 2014 #17
bjs murder rates stats jimmy the one Nov 2014 #18
Guns per capita vs murder rate. kioa Nov 2014 #19
california apples, florida oranges jimmy the one Nov 2014 #20
Hardly. Both my & your examples show zero correlation between guns per capita & murder rates. kioa Nov 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #22
We weren't supposed to notice that TX has more guns per capita and less murder than CA friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #23
buy a new deck of cards jimmy the one Nov 2014 #24
You are now contradicting what you've been claiming in the other thread friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #25
"I have a sneaking suspicion you're not playing with a full deck of cards. " blueridge3210 Nov 2014 #26
et tu jimmy the one Dec 2014 #27
Um, yeah. blueridge3210 Dec 2014 #28
Oh, really? Did a bunch of guns just disappear? Did they magically vaporize? NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #12
'Tragic canoeing accidents'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #16
How odd, crime is down while firearms sales reached all time highs Lurks Often Nov 2014 #4
such dishonesty jimmy the one Nov 2014 #6
"You are well aware of what I've just posted"-and it's just as true now than it was then friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #8
I am struck by decline in handgun homicides. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #10
50,000 stolen guns a year are more than enough to supply all the criminals with guns..... Logical Nov 2014 #11
a claim of 50,000/year melm00se Nov 2014 #13
What? That is only guns stolen from FFL holders. Not home burglarys, etc. Not sure..... Logical Nov 2014 #14
Here you go, I was wrong, it was 190,000 in 2012....... Logical Nov 2014 #15
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