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In reply to the discussion: Man arrested after tackling shopper carrying gun [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)22. so much nonsense
Uh, you so sure of yourself to put this guy Foster in our gun control camp?
I guess he could be like
Did you look at the pictures in your link? It sure looks to me like ccw carrier Mr Daniels is a 62 yo black man, while arrested mr Foster is a 43 yo white man.
relevance?
.. So, is it even remotely possible to you nuclear uni, that in florida with stand your ground mentality, that Mr Foster the white man, saw a black man's pistol as black man moved exposing it under his coat, so that white man foster saw red & thunk a black man with a gun was trying to rob the store? So he, in his righteous stand your ground mentality, decided to play vigilante & suppress black man to thwart his misperceived evil intentions?
Since California (half the states really) and UK have had SYG much longer than Florida, why hasn't the problem existed there? Better yet, do you know what SYG actually is? I doubt it. It simply means no duty to retreat (even then, it is only if you can do so safely) if faced with an immediate objectively reasonable threat to your life or physical well being. Since the guy with holstered pistol posed no reasonable, immediate threat of death or grave bodily harm to anyone, no self defense theory would apply. He committed assault. If it were on an off duty cop, the charges would be much greater.
I doubt a bona fide 'anti-gun' person, or gun control advocate, would resolve this in the manner Foster did, with a vigilante assault (we be far more passive). I think that method lies far moreso in the realm of a progun rightwing SYG mentality.
I will go as far as saying that not only was Foster an "anti gun person", but maybe a racist.
I wonder, do you think mr foster living in tampa bay, might be a gun owner? you can't say for sure one way or the other, can you, nuc uni?
Don't know much about Florida do you? Chances are kind of slim. Florida's gun ownership rate is about 25 percent, or roughly the same as France. One thing I noticed about Florida, the former New Yorkers and retired auto workers tend to be more racist than the rednecks. It is also possible that Foster is a "snowbird" from Ontario. Quebecois tend to prefer the state's east coast. Edit history
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There was no threat except in the febrile, paranoid imagination of the attacker.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#3
What a completely fucked-up thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2015
#42
Why are nutty antis allowed to "protect" themselves from peaceable people who mean them no harm
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#57
The victim appeared to have acted responsibly as well as complied with all relevant laws.
branford
Jan 2015
#71
Last Saturday, in Melbourne, Florida, a man carried three guns into the mall, and
djean111
Jan 2015
#14
You know nothing about the victim in the OP except "he's one of THOSE people"
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#15
The other grabbers in this thread and the one in GD are excusing the attack if not
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#20
Wow. Racist white man tackles carry concealed black man......if it was the other way around?
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#49
Foster is *definitely* one of your sort, Jimmy. To quote another vocal antigun DUer:
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2015
#43
If the case against Mr. Foster proceeds, I wonder if the people who advocate this
petronius
Jan 2015
#23
Perhaps a week or two in County General Pop with the word that he jumped a 62 year old black man?
DonP
Jan 2015
#24