Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: X-Post: "Gun Rights for Terrorists" [View all]Neon Gods
(222 posts)" Unlike you, I don't base my arguments on projection or personal prejudice. Nor do I trot out the usual logical fallacies."
Of course you do. Your reply was full of it.
What about this example. "No matter where you are in the world, if you can get a bag of weed, you can just as easily get a gun." One doesn't follow the other. That's just your personal prejudice making an equivalence that makes no sense. You also seem to subscribe to the "laws can't prevent bad guys from getting what they want so we should stop making those laws and face reality." Using that logic we would have no laws because someone somewhere is going to break it.
Moving onto "developed countries," surely you knew that when I referred to them I was referring to France, Germany, Japan, Sweden, etc., not lesser developed countries like Mexico, but the only way you could respond was to broaden the list.
In response to your link to the ATF report on gun recoveries in Illinois, here is a link to the source of guns recovered in Chicago:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html?_r=0
It shows Mississippi is an unusually large source of guns recovered in Chicago.
You said you read the GAO report and found that the author inflated the numbers. Would you, or someone else, provide a link or the name of the report? I couldn't find it on the GAO website.
Gun laws, like other laws defining legal/illegal activities, are not passed with the belief that the law will end illegal activity, but will reduce or control it. Pro-gunners appear to believe that crime must be controlled or prevented, not by laws, but by armed citizens, thus it is important to make it as easy as possible for anyone, everyone, to get a gun. Citizens who choose not to arm themselves are sh*t out of luck if a portion of the growing American arsenal fall into the hands of criminals, or angry drunks, or sadists, or men who feel they must control their women or shoot them, or kids too young to understand consequences.