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In reply to the discussion: Emily Got Her Gun [View all]

Neon Gods

(222 posts)
67. And yet those gun control orgs rammed through a[n]..."assault weapon" ban in 2013 in Maryland"
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:34 PM
Mar 2015

Yes, they did, didn't they. Given the power and reach of the NRA - even in Maryland - and the chance to present testimony to what you claim, the MD lege passed the bill. Maybe there was an overriding reason they felt the need for the law. Texas does their thing, Maryland does our thing. I was not involved.

"I have yet to read of a gun control organization saying such bans are wrong or misguided or should be opposed, just sometimes that they're not practical nationwide "yet" so they're not a priority "for now"."


I do believe some gun control groups would ban future sales of the stereotypical assault weapons if they were a class of their own and banning them would be effective, and that it wouldn't unduly restrict ownership of rifles used primarily for hunting, but experience shows this is not possible. It's a bit like wanting to test all welfare recipients for drugs, it sounds good to the average person, but experience shows it's a waste of time, if not unconstitutional. I merely said that is not where most of their energy is focused at least on the Facebook postings I see (and I see a lot of them).

"If he [the co-worker] were calling a gun dealer to ostensibly buy a gun in order to commit a crime, doesn't that imply that he didn't already own same? "


The co-worker was a gun enthusiast. He wore a NRA jacket to work (at least it had a big NRA log on the back). Of course he was reported to law-enforcement and he freely admitted what he did. He said he called because he was angry and wanted his supervisor to feel threatened. I don't know what, if any punishment was meted out, but I was told a year later that he still had his firearms in his possession.

Did you know that well in excess of 90% of drunk drivers (almost certainly closer to 99%) make it home just fine each time they drive drunk? You must feel incredulous that society puts so much effort into identifying them on the road and ticketing them, and even taking away their driver's license in some cases. How can society justify picking on a class of people who successfully, albeit with little memory of the fact, make their trip from point A to point B with no injuries to themselves or others? Why would we "stereotype" drunk drivers as dangerous when such a small percentage end up injuring or killing others? If you understand this, then maybe you will understand why we're not stereotyping, we are trying to protect ourselves from the small percentage of people who, in certain circumstances, will kill. I'm sure you are aware that the man who shot the three college students in cold blood in Chapel Hill had a concealed carry permit, and that he had threatened them earlier confronting them and raising his shirt so they could see that he was armed, but because he had the permit, the police could do nothing, and the students ended up shot dead. That's dead as in DEAD. Forever.

"...but if your aim is to reduce violent crime and save lives, it seems to me that focusing on those who are not the problem isn't going to help one iota,..."


Okay, but that assumes you, or someone, knows how to identify those who are the problem from those who are not. Of course, those who exhibit severe mental illness and those with a long history of violent crime are easy to spot, but much of the gun violence I read about are like the Chapel Hill shooter, they snap and shoot and kill. How does one identify the Craig Hicks?
Emily Got Her Gun [View all] Neon Gods Feb 2015 OP
At least somebody is pointing out the absurdity of gun laws Travis_0004 Feb 2015 #1
And you would be writing as a columnist or commentator... Neon Gods Feb 2015 #3
Guns Guns Guns, we dont have enough randys1 Feb 2015 #2
This is the forum sarisataka Feb 2015 #14
No, this is the forum where adults discuss facts Lurks Often Feb 2015 #19
Good one Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #25
Are we saying here that she can't advocate upaloopa Feb 2015 #4
Credibility is a prime concern in any news article discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2015 #5
Well if we have to check our beliefs and desires upaloopa Feb 2015 #7
Yes Neon Gods Feb 2015 #10
I'm have only a passing familiarity with Emily discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2015 #11
"I am no gun owner (use to be until last December)" oneshooter Feb 2015 #22
#gunnergate Brickbat Feb 2015 #6
Okay, now address the part where DC is throwing up unconstitutional roadblocks. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #8
Examples? Neon Gods Feb 2015 #12
"Has that been declared unconstitutional?" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #16
"That's the weasel technique grabbers use and that's why they aren't trusted..." Neon Gods Feb 2015 #20
Except it's not democracy because grabbers only win by lying and obfuscation. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #23
Ethics?! virginia mountainman Feb 2015 #9
So get him fired Neon Gods Feb 2015 #13
I think you missed the point n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2015 #15
Why not prison? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #17
Its apropriate, here, pointing out that the CSGV is silent on gregory. N/T beevul Feb 2015 #18
Just like WTTG has been silent about Emily Miller Neon Gods Feb 2015 #21
Wait, do you support "assault weapon" and magazine bans, or oppose them? benEzra Feb 2015 #24
surprise! no answer Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #26
Oh my, I am so sorry! Neon Gods Feb 2015 #29
Just one would be nice though Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #30
Do you know why pro-controllers don't answer every reply? Neon Gods Mar 2015 #33
Welcome to the gungeon. I, too, have noticed the bullies ongoing attempts to make this RKBA only. Electric Monk Mar 2015 #34
Not hostile but factual Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #37
"Nobody makes you come here". He *has* to, if he wants his posts to get a wide audience friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #39
Actually it's a forum for discussion... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #41
No, its not. Neon Gods Mar 2015 #65
This was to be a response to #41 Neon Gods Mar 2015 #66
This is what that "brave" group sarisataka Mar 2015 #69
Cool story bro. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #73
This was posted in the group you host Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #42
I agree that "It takes a special kind of sick bastard to celebrate wife beaters having guns." Electric Monk Mar 2015 #44
post the whole thing Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #45
If you think it is way over the top, alert on it. That's what juries are for, not hosts. nt Electric Monk Mar 2015 #46
Wrong Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #47
You self deleted what? You just had a post hidden by jury. Learn the difference, please. nt Electric Monk Mar 2015 #48
That post I self deleted was a while back Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #51
Utter BS again. GGJohn Mar 2015 #49
I could make them a host too, if I want to. I think I just might, just to piss you off even more. Electric Monk Mar 2015 #50
LOL. You think I'm pissed off? GGJohn Mar 2015 #53
but this is his favorite group Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #55
Yeah, go figure. GGJohn Mar 2015 #56
Great job, 40 wow Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #57
Welcome home to you too brother. eom. GGJohn Mar 2015 #58
Mine was easy compared to yours Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #59
Attack chopper pilot, Vietnam, Panama, Desert Storm, Afghanistan and Iraq. GGJohn Mar 2015 #60
I always wanted to to airframes Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #62
I love it when a certain faction here ridicule your handle, GGJohn Mar 2015 #61
I can understand it Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #63
be careful Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #52
Oh, I have my eyes wide open as far as EM is concerned. GGJohn Mar 2015 #54
Yes, I could post there and probably will end up doing so, but... Neon Gods Mar 2015 #64
"I've never met a liberal that doesn't put public safety" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #68
I've walked into the Tower of Babel Neon Gods Mar 2015 #70
If you claim gun ownership = higher deaths then the number of deaths should correlate to the Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #72
Factoids and faulty conclusions. Straw Man Mar 2015 #71
And if they answer simple questions Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #36
In the other thread, you said it's ridiculous to think gun controllers want to ban "assault weapons" benEzra Mar 2015 #31
No, I never specifically mentioned >10 round magazines Neon Gods Mar 2015 #35
The disinterested reader will note that no AR (or any other rifle) was mentioned in that anecdote friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #38
If I may point out... benEzra Mar 2015 #43
And yet those gun control orgs rammed through a[n]..."assault weapon" ban in 2013 in Maryland" Neon Gods Mar 2015 #67
Who is being less than honest? virginia mountainman Feb 2015 #28
Look up "intent" nt Logical Feb 2015 #27
gunnuttess crab jimmy the one Mar 2015 #32
So she's definitely "one of *those* people"? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #40
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