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In reply to the discussion: A discussion of rifle ammunition bans and .223/M855 murders, by the numbers. [View all]Straw Man
(6,622 posts)96. Blahdy blahdy blah blah ...
To quote you: I will need to supply nothing ; either do your own homework, as you say, or, first provide some handgun recoil ratings of the .223 which you contend are so much less than the m16 or ar15.
So much less? So much more, Jimmy, so much more. Using the same round, the smaller, lighter gun will recoil more than the bigger, heavier gun. Are you disputing that?
My original contention was that the 'pile driving' effect of a greentip could penetrate level III vests, & that I consider true.
Except that the "pile driving" cannot happen under real world conditions. At best you could hope to achieve it under very controlled test conditions: gun in a vise and and absolutely stationary target.
What I concede is that I made the 'assassin worry' overblown, in that it's remote that it would happen. I am not avoiding this, except from those who harp on it repeatedly.
So remote as to be impossible: in other words, your whole premise was fairy-dust and bullshit.
So you're a gonzo journalist, huh? But you hate HST? Isn't that kind of like a Republican who hates GWB?
A gonzo journalist who claims to deal in rationality: now there's an oxymoron.
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A discussion of rifle ammunition bans and .223/M855 murders, by the numbers. [View all]
benEzra
Feb 2015
OP
Because M855 is lead-core *NON* AP, and if it can be designated AP under the new framework
benEzra
Mar 2015
#65
The "straw man" is pretending that M855 out of a pistol can penetrate Level III armor. It can't.
benEzra
Mar 2015
#93
It's not that pressures are different (they are the same), it's the way the leade is cut.
benEzra
Mar 2015
#119
The Straight Dope; Fighting ignorance since 1973 (It's taking longer than we thought)
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#101
"It's just they're terribly comfortable I think everyone will be wearing them in the future"
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#102
By the way, that motorcycle suit you linked to? 600D Coudra, not Kevlar. Genius move there.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2015
#105
Hey, they admitted that AR-15 rifles are typically used by target shooters and hunters.
benEzra
Mar 2015
#31
and when some gun manufacturer comes up with a bullpup pistol version, what then?
Electric Monk
Mar 2015
#32
"its up to you to make the case why they shouldn't be, beyond 'I don't like them'."
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2015
#55
if you want to ban something, you go after the least effective regulations first
Taitertots
Mar 2015
#50
INTERESTING. I just learned that 55gr lead-core FMJ (but ironically not 62gr M855)
benEzra
Mar 2015
#88