Gun Control & RKBA

jimmy the one

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Wed Mar 18, 2015, 04:33 PM

Mar 2015

So much less? So much more, Jimmy, so much more. Using the same round, the smaller, lighter gun will recoil more than the bigger, heavier gun. Are you disputing that?

So much more, typo. Off for day.

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A discussion of rifle ammunition bans and .223/M855 murders, by the numbers. [View all] benEzra Feb 2015 OP

Thanks for the facts. braddy Feb 2015 #1

Banning M855 is kind of silly, but.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #2

A lot of people who shoot M855 benEzra Feb 2015 #4

I dunno.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #5

Thanks for the post, interesting Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #3

The Fraternal Order of Police has chimed in. benEzra Mar 2015 #6

Great Post Ben.. virginia mountainman Mar 2015 #7

rock paper scissors jimmy the one Mar 2015 #8

Level III hard armor should stop multiple .223/5.56mm benEzra Mar 2015 #10

green bullets jimmy the one Mar 2015 #37

Oh my....let's discuss. benEzra Mar 2015 #39

Take a rather pedestrian bullet sarisataka Mar 2015 #41

Support your BATFE jimmy the one Mar 2015 #47

suspended, fear of rabies jimmy the one Mar 2015 #48

"Rabid gun zealotry to the rescue" beevul Mar 2015 #49

Pointing out facts is always "rabid gun zealotry" if those facts benEzra Mar 2015 #54

at what point does nra idiocy offend reason jimmy the one Mar 2015 #60

Because M855 is lead-core *NON* AP, and if it can be designated AP under the new framework benEzra Mar 2015 #65

angry gun owners win jimmy the one Mar 2015 #67

What a misleading title. beevul Mar 2015 #68

The only person angry in this thread is you. benEzra Mar 2015 #72

Jimmy makes some excellent points samsingh Mar 2015 #76

Hard to see with his hat on though. DonP Mar 2015 #80

Such as? benEzra Mar 2015 #85

Eh? Straw Man Mar 2015 #16

I doubt you will get a response Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #22

you lose jimmy the one Mar 2015 #46

Fail, as this is not what you Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #58

Comprehension? Straw Man Mar 2015 #59

girlie men could use them jimmy the one Mar 2015 #61

Nonsense. Straw Man Mar 2015 #62

forget about level III bpv? jimmy the one Mar 2015 #64

More stuff. Straw Man Mar 2015 #66

odd bullet, but effective jimmy the one Mar 2015 #69

A black hole? Straw Man Mar 2015 #70

relative special theories jimmy the one Mar 2015 #73

Relative nonsense. Straw Man Mar 2015 #74

he am teacher, hear him roar jimmy the one Mar 2015 #75

Thanks for pointing out my typo, Jimmy. Straw Man Mar 2015 #78

little big man jimmy the one Mar 2015 #81

Grammar Games Straw Man Mar 2015 #83

picking nits, straw man style jimmy the one Mar 2015 #86

More games. Straw Man Mar 2015 #87

straw man on a high horse jimmy the one Mar 2015 #91

The hits just keep on coming. Straw Man Mar 2015 #92

pile driving effect still true, afaik jimmy the one Mar 2015 #95

Blahdy blahdy blah blah ... Straw Man Mar 2015 #96

more jimmy the one Mar 2015 #99

Typo? Straw Man Mar 2015 #104

what was so good about him? jimmy the one Mar 2015 #110

HST? Straw Man Mar 2015 #112

gonzo journalism jimmy the one Mar 2015 #115

So in Jimmy's lexicon ... Straw Man Mar 2015 #116

The "straw man" is pretending that M855 out of a pistol can penetrate Level III armor. It can't. benEzra Mar 2015 #93

The military uses it... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2015 #94

pile drivers jimmy the one Mar 2015 #98

"Unlikely but possible" benEzra Mar 2015 #107

recoil chart jimmy the one Mar 2015 #108

Couple problems that will affect the calc. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #114

It's not that pressures are different (they are the same), it's the way the leade is cut. benEzra Mar 2015 #119

Yes, exactly. benEzra Mar 2015 #118

knight's gambit thru enemy territory jimmy the one Mar 2015 #111

Well... benEzra Mar 2015 #117

2-5 leave.....m msanthrope Mar 2015 #103

thanks, ms ann thrope jimmy the one Apr 2015 #120

Here's the thing, James. blueridge3210 Mar 2015 #79

And this particular contention is *ludicrous*. benEzra Mar 2015 #71

.223 handguns Straw Man Mar 2015 #63

You are completely, totally and hilariously wrong. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #90

enormous or hilarious jimmy the one Mar 2015 #109

I agree with Erza's comment. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #113

It works that way in Call of Duty, amirite? benEzra Mar 2015 #40

you are making good points Jimmy samsingh Mar 2015 #77

play it again, sam jimmy the one Mar 2015 #82

In other words ... Straw Man Mar 2015 #84

Do people shoot at you a lot on your motorcycle? AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #89

leather better than kevlar? dark ages logic jimmy the one Mar 2015 #97

Reading comprehension. It's fundamental. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #100

The Straight Dope; Fighting ignorance since 1973 (It's taking longer than we thought) AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #101

"It's just they're terribly comfortable I think everyone will be wearing them in the future" AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #102

By the way, that motorcycle suit you linked to? 600D Coudra, not Kevlar. Genius move there. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #105

Everyone knows this is a feel good Moms and Bloomy pleasing ban. ileus Mar 2015 #9

Hmmm. Wonder why our resident "statistics expert" is remaining silent? NT pablo_marmol Mar 2015 #11

It's just another ploy to chisel away at gun rights. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #12

I wonder if this changes things? blueridge3210 Mar 2015 #13

The whine cellar is gonna have a sad about that! friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #14

funny they say firearms are not regulated Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #15

"The whine cellar..." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #42

You should be. I only stea...err, borrow from the best! friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #45

Piling this atop the rest of this fiasco certainly doesn't help their case... benEzra Mar 2015 #17

If I wore a tin foil hat Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #18

Trial balloon? blueridge3210 Mar 2015 #19

Why does every article sarisataka Mar 2015 #20

predictably, another post in the other group that links to Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #21

And as expected: blueridge3210 Mar 2015 #23

Facts do not matter as much as purity Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #24

Think this question will be answered Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #25

You guys would whine about that, too, if it went that way. nt Electric Monk Mar 2015 #26

Nope, just curious how many more you are going to block Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #27

I notice you haven't chimed in much on the ammo ban proposal. beevul Mar 2015 #28

just ask him as a simple yes or no question Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #30

Reclass them as SBR's, problem solved. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #106

another answer as expected in that group Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #29

Hey, they admitted that AR-15 rifles are typically used by target shooters and hunters. benEzra Mar 2015 #31

and when some gun manufacturer comes up with a bullpup pistol version, what then? Electric Monk Mar 2015 #32

nice cartoon Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #33

We buy one...or two...a in home self defense dream come true. ileus Mar 2015 #34

They already do (Steyr AUG and IMI Tavor). benEzra Mar 2015 #35

The basic mechanics of firearms... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2015 #36

You haven't made the case why they shouldn't be allowed for civilians. beevul Mar 2015 #38

"its up to you to make the case why they shouldn't be, beyond 'I don't like them'." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #55

Me and my high-minded beliefs... beevul Mar 2015 #56

Ugh! Why must these peasants always be starting so much trouble! Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #57

Update: It looks like the good guys won. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #43

Good to hear. It appears sometimes facts can win out over the scaremongering. benEzra Mar 2015 #44

And likely another bump in NRA, SAF and state associations membership N/T DonP Mar 2015 #53

if you want to ban something, you go after the least effective regulations first Taitertots Mar 2015 #50

Excellent and informative post tularetom Mar 2015 #51

Yup, exactly. (n/t) benEzra Mar 2015 #52

INTERESTING. I just learned that 55gr lead-core FMJ (but ironically not 62gr M855) benEzra Mar 2015 #88