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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
25. more bad for gallup
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

Another source calling a high republican bias for gallup, during the 2012 Obama - Romney election. We assume this bias would, or could apply to gallup's other polls, where the bias might not be measured due no other pollsters to compare with, or few.

---------# of polls.. avg error... bias .......
Pew Research 2 ...... 1.5 ...... R +1.1 ... live phone
Gallup ..........11 ..... 7.2 ...... R +7.2 ... live phone

It was one of the best-known polling firms, however, that had among the worst results. In late October, Gallup consistently showed Mr. Romney ahead by about six points among likely voters, far different from the average of other surveys. Gallup’s final poll of the election, which had Mr. Romney up by one point, was slightly better, but still identified the wrong winner in the election. Gallup has now had three poor elections in a row. In 2008, their polls overestimated Mr. Obama’s performance, while in 2010, they overestimated how well Republicans would do in the race for the United States House.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0

So you can't say, by these figures, that pew is biased to the dems, since they're not, they're also slightly biased +1.1 to repubs, while gallup is biased right by 6.1 more pts, to 7.2. This would account for discrepancies in our gun ownership poll graphs above.

Polling a lot higher for one candidate during the campaign & then 'suddenly' at the end of it tighten up the race, as in gallup drawing it to 1 pt, obviously can be a clever tactic to try to influence people prior to the election, without suffering loss of prestige. They have new 'rules' to expose this chicanery. Good for us, bad for gallup.

my previous post: blogger Kos reported, in June 2003, Gallup's CEO James Clifton gave $2,000 to a very right-wing Republican who was running for Senate, Herman Cain.

Yet somehow sates issue record numbers of carry permits each year. davepc May 2015 #1
Absolutely correct. GGJohn May 2015 #3
Fewer and fewer Americans honestly answering questions on the phone from strangers Lurks Often May 2015 #2
The General Social Survey benEzra May 2015 #6
Anecdotal is anecdotal... Human101948 May 2015 #7
No, you've virtually met people who may or may not tell you that they own guns. GGJohn May 2015 #9
Yep! I am a gun owner and I tell them so... Human101948 May 2015 #12
Good for you, I refuse to tell any annonymous pollsters that I may own firearms. GGJohn May 2015 #14
I'm curious. Do you ask everyone you meet if they own a gun? Demit May 2015 #11
It comes up in conversation about shootings and dumbass things that people do with guns... Human101948 May 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn May 2015 #17
Is that "obsession with other people's genitalia", an "Uncle Ruckus", or both? friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #40
No, but I recognize that my data is anecdotal Lurks Often May 2015 #23
Lakes are shallower these days... pipoman May 2015 #4
We're going on a 9hr kayak float fishing trip this weekend. ileus May 2015 #20
LOL! Eleanors38 May 2015 #29
Uh-huh. They are in deep denial. benEzra May 2015 #5
Maybe they actually quadrupled or quintupled! Human101948 May 2015 #8
And how is responsible for that so called paranoia? eom. GGJohn May 2015 #10
I don't know how... Human101948 May 2015 #13
Ooops, meant to type who. GGJohn May 2015 #16
Ah! You at least take the Political Theory of Gun-Owner Paranoia seriously.... Eleanors38 May 2015 #30
Hi, this the HONEST SURVEY COMPANY... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #31
Yes, a broken VRT T.V. that weighs a ton. pleeeeeze.... nt Eleanors38 May 2015 #32
Nudge... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #34
What reputable poll backs up gallup? jimmy the one May 2015 #24
more bad for gallup jimmy the one May 2015 #25
Let's make this simple for the control types Shamash May 2015 #18
In todays political climate you'd be insane to answer a question like this. ileus May 2015 #19
Allow me to simplify sarisataka May 2015 #21
That pretty much sums it up. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #22
Pardon my dissent on this (sticks up hat on stick to draw fire)..... LongTomH May 2015 #26
Let me count the ways discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #33
Gun Households HockeyMom May 2015 #27
A curious turn in the rhetoric of "paranoid gun-owners".... Eleanors38 May 2015 #28
You're absolutely right! Obama is coming to take your guns! Human101948 May 2015 #35
Old stuff. Do you really take your own stand seriously? Eleanors38 May 2015 #36
You are the one arguing for paranoia... Human101948 May 2015 #38
And you are the one "Phelpsing" other DUers: friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #41
Sorry but "whoosh" as the expression goes. I don't ask my friends because.... Eleanors38 May 2015 #45
If you were serious about the gun control "issue," you might see Obama's dilemma... Eleanors38 May 2015 #46
One of the best metrics for measuring new gun owners involves firearm training...... pablo_marmol May 2015 #37
You are judge and jury...that's swell! Human101948 May 2015 #39
"You might be right but then again you may be wrong." pablo_marmol May 2015 #42
Still waiting for one of the "fewer gun owners" believers to explain Illinois? DonP May 2015 #43
bet all you get are Duckhunter935 May 2015 #44
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